The problem though is that there are only three actually independent browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Safari. Two of those are controlled by the world's largest tech companies, and are created for ulterior purpose. No other entity produces a modern web browser that is independent from one of those three. Any decision that any of the others make that deviates from those browsers substantially is a decision to be left behind. If that Mozilla of the past can not be brought back or reborn elsewhere, the open web is over.
Tragic and I'm not sure exactly why. The new Firefox Fenix seems great to me, the old Firefox Klar seems great to me, and the old old Firefox also seemed just fine.
I also use it. I'm saying the evolution of internet standards away from the open web will start on mobile and the slow death of firefox on desktop will ensure that the current trends of sites only testing compatibility with chrome will continue until firefox is virtually unusable. it's not about whether you find it usable or not but its impact on how the web is architected.
Ok you did it, you found the exception. There's a couple of decades old really fringe browsers like that out there that are still being updated, but they're essentially living fossils. Chrome and Chromium based browsers have something like an 80% market share at this point. It's Google all the way down.
The problem though is that there are only three actually independent browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Safari. Two of those are controlled by the world's largest tech companies, and are created for ulterior purpose. No other entity produces a modern web browser that is independent from one of those three. Any decision that any of the others make that deviates from those browsers substantially is a decision to be left behind. If that Mozilla of the past can not be brought back or reborn elsewhere, the open web is over.
firefox has been such a non-entity on mobile that I think we're not really coming back from this, this time.
Tragic and I'm not sure exactly why. The new Firefox Fenix seems great to me, the old Firefox Klar seems great to me, and the old old Firefox also seemed just fine.
Does it matter if its a non-entity if it also works fine? I use Firefox mobile and its great.
Of course, if Mozilla dies it will probable stop being maintained...
I also use it. I'm saying the evolution of internet standards away from the open web will start on mobile and the slow death of firefox on desktop will ensure that the current trends of sites only testing compatibility with chrome will continue until firefox is virtually unusable. it's not about whether you find it usable or not but its impact on how the web is architected.
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Opera has been based on Chrome for years now and has zero meaningful independence from it.
kinda funny that there are a million web browsers and they're all basically chrome, the most daring ones are based on a webkit branch
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Opera, Vivaldi, Microsoft Edge, Brave... they're all Chromium based.
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Ok you did it, you found the exception. There's a couple of decades old really fringe browsers like that out there that are still being updated, but they're essentially living fossils. Chrome and Chromium based browsers have something like an 80% market share at this point. It's Google all the way down.
I'm still upset when people send me HTML formatted emails.
calm down stallman
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