• GayActorMichaelDouglas [none/use name, he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Even most delivery vehicles should be replaced by either cargo bikes or by spur lines off the railroad.

    I just don't think it'd be practical to fill entire grocery stores worth of stuff on bikes. You're not dealing with a few packages of office supplies. You're dealing with entire warehouse districts worth of stuff having to move across cities. Even with reduced consumption, the amount of people needed to transport that on bikes would probably be more than the local population.

      • GayActorMichaelDouglas [none/use name, he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Do you plan to run a train through every grocery store, stop to unload at each stop, and still expect to get everything there at the same time?

        We don't live in a wildwest train town. Our cities are not built around trains and unless you plan to literally tear down the entirety of New York it will not work.

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          10 months ago

          Our cities are not built around trains

          They used to be, and you can still see it in the way a lot of cities roads and former industrial cores are laid out.

          tear down the entirety of New York

          That picture was from NYC during the 20s.

          But surface level freight trains are not a great solution in cities, hence why they built the highline, which stayed in use until the 80s.

          expect to get everything there at the same time?

          Scheduled freight trains running on their own grade and just stopping to switch out some containers can potentially be more reliable than semis. I have to say potentially because holy shit american freight has been hollowed out by capitalism.

          edit: I don't actually think it's feasible for every place that needs more freight than cargo bikes can handle would have a train depot, but every truck that swaps containers at depots inside the city reduces the number of miles they're driving in the city and the need for giant highways cutting the city in half.