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That's a fair point, I'm not sure there's a lot of historical indicators either way. I guess my thought it is, say there was a serious drop in material conditions in say Norway - a drop large enough to potentially foment revolution. Do you think their social democratic setup would push people towards socialism? My gut says yes. Compare that to what we have in the US right now. It seems to me that we are so deeply ingrained with capitalism, that if we have revolutionary conditions here yeah socialism one direction we could go, but a lot others that are even worse.

But this is all admittedly conjecture, I don't really know for sure and thus don't have a particularly strong opinion on it.