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  • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Idk, my opinions on them are based on some fairly old stuff, they have changed a bit over the years and it's probably unfair I'm not giving credit to them for that. They absolutely have a history that involved them toeing the imperialist line on Syria though.

    • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I didn't know who they were until Syria was out of the news cycle. What was their cringe Syria take?

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Basically just repeating a fuck ton of CIA type shit about Assad, everything from stuff about chemical weapons to the rape of children.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Norton and Blumenthal used to do CIA takes on Assad, then suddenly changed when Greyzone was founded. I like their stuff but I do think that was very strange.

        • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I mean maybe they've grown politically? Or maybe they really are paid by Russia like the libs say. If that were the case I wouldn't really care lol. I just can't see it being a US op. They seem to counter US interests constantly and are viewed positively by our enemies. I'd say the accusation of opportunism holds more weight, but tbh I don't think it really matters if it doesn't manifest in an Imperialist or reactionary way.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, Greyzone puts out fantastic and thought provoking stuff, but Blumenthal and Norton seemed to suddenly switch Syria positions when Greyzone was created. I think they genuinely could have changed views, but that was really weird.

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The way they act so online sometimes and directly scrutinize other media outlets makes me incredibly skeptical given their own path of not always getting things exactly right. It's not right that they go around calling the intercept an op.

        I used to think they adopted these positions because it appealed to a specific niche of the left, but I have seen them be given real respect from like actual world leaders so my opinion is changing slowly.