He crosses my mind like constantly. I was radicalized by the Mike Brown wave of BLM but Tamir is the one that got to me especially. He was fucking 12, and got gunned down on broad daylight, and there was no justice.
I just. I cant get over it. I dont even think I should.
He had it coming. He was a black male in broad daylight. Broad. Daylight. What did he think was going to happen? Should have known better.
All of the /s, if it isn't obvious.
I just want to know why it's so radical for us to expect people not to be flat-out murdered by police because of their skin color? You aren't "radicalized". You are in opposition to the true radicalization that has become accepted as the norm in the US.
i'm radicalized. i want to bury cops in many layers of concrete and bring an end to the united states by any means necessary.
If your foundation is built in quicksand, you don't keep building on it. You tear it out and build on solid bedrock. That's not so radical.
That shouldn’t be a radical position, that should be the normal sane default for any reasonable person
white conservatives are silent
It wasn’t always this way. Plenty of movies in the 70s for example show cops in a negative light. Usually it was just “asshole cops want to stop the white boys from having fun” a la Dukes of Hazzard, but still. I don’t think you could make a movie like “Rambo” in 2023, at least not without the pigs squealing about Brian Dennehy’s portrayal of them. I mean, even as a little kid in the late 80s, I don’t recall the levels of bootlicking by white people like we see today.
So what happened? I think after US cities became slightly less segregated post Civil Rights era and you had marginally more racial diversity in the suburbs, white folks began to see the police as the enforcers of white supremacy. But this all really went into overdrive after Michael Brown. White folks perceived BLM as a direct attack on white supremacy, and had a dialectical response to it - supporting the pigs isn’t really about supporting the pigs. It’s more about taking a stand for white supremacy but laundering it through support for cops. Just my take.
Wow. I hadn't really considered the bootlicking of cops as a "white supremacy by proxy" reaction before, but that makes a lot pf sense.
The way so many BLM leaders were disappeared and still never heard from again creeps me out.
Is there a good resource detailing all of those? I remember a lot of piecemeal rumors but I can't find anything linking it all together. Done right, it would be a powerful tool for radicalization. Plus, those leaders deserve to be remembered
There was this RS article from 2019 which lays out what happened but nothing more than a "just the facts" type reporting
CW death, lynching, racism, suicide
Most recently, Bassem Masri, 31, was found unresponsive on a bus in November 2018 and was later pronounced dead; a toxicology report revealed he had had a heart attack following a fentanyl overdose. Masri was well-known in the community for live-streaming and participating in the Ferguson protests, telling an interviewer in 2014 that he did so because he believed the mainstream media “ain’t gonna say the truth [about Brown’s death.] They ain’t gonna never say the truth. They got their own narrative.”
Two other men connected to the protests, Darren Seals, 29; and Deandre Joshua, 20, were found killed under similar circumstances. Joshua was found dead in a torched car in November 2014 during the Ferguson protests. Two years later, Seals was found dead in a torched car after having been shot.
In addition to the deaths of Masri, Seals and Joshua, three men associated with the Ferguson protests are reported to have taken their own lives, according to St. Louis police: MarShawn McCarrel, 23; Danye Jones, 24; and Edward Crawford, Jr., 27.
Yet family members and friends in the Ferguson community say that the details of the deaths don’t quite add up. In Oct. 2018, for instance, Jones was found hanging by a sheet on a tree, yet his family members have said that they do not believe Jones would be able to make the knots required to have tied the sheets, nor did Jones’s mother, Melissa McKinnies, recognize the sheets themselves. “They lynched my baby,” she said in a Facebook post after her son was found dead last October.
Death of Darren Seals.
@UlyssesT@hexbear.net since you said you were looking for something as well. This might put you on the track for what you're looking for
Is there a good resource detailing all of those? I remember a lot of piecemeal rumors but I can't find anything linking it all together. Done right, it would be a powerful tool for radicalization. Plus, those leaders deserve to be remembered
I haven't found one... which is probably working as intended.
I don't think any of us should. Just because a lot of awful shit is happening, we can't let it just wash over us or stop paying attention to the individual people getting murdered.
Tamir Rice was a child and for his murder to be seen as anything else is deeply unsettling. People are still willing to debate that. It hurts to think about it, but we can't forget that the institutions that killed Tamir Rice are still an active threat.
The same institutions that safely apprehends armed white supremacists all the time. In a country like that, how can we get over the murder of an unarmed twelve year old?
I feel the same way about Sandy Hook. Just absolutely fucking gut wrenching.
There are so many senseless horrors. The best liberals can do is appeals to morality. Kwame Ture’s words ring eternally true, that only works if your opposition has morals.
I goofed around with airsoft pistols in the park when I was teenager. I've had the cops jump the curb in their squad car and roll up on a group of me and my friends while we were just hanging out. I was scared of cops before then, but post-Tamir I started to understand that they were roving death squads vibrating with fear and violent urges, only just barely contained from unleashing genocidal mass violence by social norms. In their deepest desires, cops want to do straight-up ethnic cleansing.
That's how I feel about Elijah McClain. Kid would play his violin at animal shelters. My son would play his violin for our timid bassett.
Libs I know called BLM a victory because some local police areas instituted "reforms"
they believe that is victory
Liberals are hopeless
BLM was co-opted from a radical movement into a shadow version of itself. I had so much hope for it.
lmao I misread this as tamarind rice and got excited that I was gonna get to talk about one of my all time favorite dishes from childhood. I was instantly disappointed after clicking on the thread.
The lack of action in response was definitely an ominous moment for the country. I mean that as in it was literally like an omen that things would not improve.
Yeah the fact that literally anyone, cop or otherwise, can murk a 12 year old in broad daylight and not face the slightest consequences should be a wakeup call to anyone.
