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  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Because that’s not realistically going to happen and hundreds of thousands more will die before you recognize it.

    Unlike you I want the killing to stop, unconditionally. That is my only concern. I don’t give a fuck what country “wins”.

    You have conditions for the killing to stop. That’s because you are deranged and lack empathy for the real victims of this war. Instead you abstract your empathy to a fucking nation state.

    • uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      What do you think, then? What is the realistic thing that Ukraine should negotiate for? And, again, what would make it so that Ukraine could trust that negotiation?

      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Trust has nothing to do with it.

        If both sides stop shooting and murdering each other, any promise is worth that.

        The mechanics are irrelevant. Anyone who would prolong this conflict to achieve some “goal” has lost their humanity.

        • uniqueid198x@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Any promise is worth that? Even the unilateral withdrawal and disarmament of Russia? By Prolonging this conflict to achieve a goal, has Putin lost his humanity? Ending this conflict is as easy as Russia ending this conflict. But ending this conflict doesn't ssem to be worth a Russian withdrawal.

          What should Ukraine negotiate for? What do they get beyone Russia doing the thing it should be doing anyway? What should they give up? And how should that be enforced, so that Russia doesn't ignore this treaty like they have every treaty on Ukrainian borders?

          • charlie
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            1 year ago

            By Prolonging this conflict to achieve a goal, has Putin NATO lost his its humanity?

            Yes.