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    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]M
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      1 year ago

      Maybe they shouldn't be losing the fucking war then? Maybe they and their NATO handlers, with the absolute mountain of steel that they're piping into Ukraine, shouldn't have ran soldiers and equipments into minefields for two months with almost literally no gain whatsoever? I don't know what to say to you, really. They decided to stay in the war in autumn at the apex of their military gains in Kharkiv and Kherson and so Russia built up defenses because the war was continuing instead of ending, as they were obviously going to do because they also want to win the war. Ukraine was the ones who decided, with the West's urging, to ditch the peace deal that they were writing up with Russia in April 2022. They decided to keep shelling the Donbass instead of allowing them more autonomy. They decided to overthrow the government and set fire to pro-Russians inside buildings in 2014, with America's help, to form an explicitly anti-Russian, fascist regime instead of anything constructive. This isn't a mere situation of an imperialist metropole assaulting its colonial possession for being too uppity, Russia tried repeatedly to solve the conflict diplomatically in such a way that this war didn't have to happen.

      If Ukraine miraculously breaks through to the Sea of Azov (as more and more US officials are saying they can't) then maybe the foundations of the negotiations can change. Will they make peace then? Almost certainly not, just like last autumn. And then Russia will continue building defences and sending men in. And Ukraine will continue to bleed men, use up ammo, and ruin equipment until one of those things runs out. And NATO itself is saying that they're running out of artillery shells and ammo to send over, and can't rebuild the factories for years. Russia kept those industries instead of shipping their tank factories off to China (also a generally pro-Russian country, by the way!), like every other western country, those devious anti-free market fuckers! It doesn't take a PhD in military theory to draw two trend lines.

      What does the West have to offer Russia to persuade it to give up its hard-fought for oblasts in Ukraine? More importantly, can Russia trust the West to not renege on that promise as soon as they withdraw their equipment? If they undo the sanctions, for example, what's stopping them from just putting them back on Russia as soon as the last tank has rolled back over the border? Mutual trust? Because, again, Western politicians have actively boasted, in the western media, to western interviewers, for a western audience, that the Minsk agreements were never serious, and that they were arming Ukraine for an ultimate conflict while also saying that, oh yes, we should have peace in the Donbass. That's an incredible breach of trust to just admit to, and it makes total sense why Putin might feel a little hesitant to trust any Western deal or promise made ever again.

    • Egon
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