gender is socially constructed. saying that you prefer "natural born women" is exactly like saying you prefer people who weren't "born a criminal"

          • gay [any]
            2·
            4 years ago

            People here like: I know what's between your pants, trans. Stop asking me to treat you like a person, you'll make me feel guilty.

              • gay [any]
                2·
                4 years ago

                Maybe leave some room in your discussion of attraction for that independence.

                This is about trans people BTW. Try next post!

              • the_river_cass [she/her]
                3·
                4 years ago

                if you don't know what's in someone's pants, how do you get to "not wanting to date trans people is fine because genital preferences"? this is nonsense.

                  • the_river_cass [she/her]
                    1·
                    4 years ago

                    the subtext is the generally cisnormative views held by most people that you're literally reinforcing while parading around in costumed allyship.

                      • the_river_cass [she/her]
                        ·
                        4 years ago

                        what fucking status? the subtext is that if you judge a whole group of people as unattractive on the basis of a quality they may or may not possess - and you can't know until you've had a very intimate conversation with a specific person - then you're engaging in internalized bigotry.

                          • the_river_cass [she/her]
                            1·
                            4 years ago

                            The status of allyship.

                            jesus fucking christ, you care more about your fucking status than what you're actually saying.

                            By “may or may not possess”, I assume you’re talking about genitalia.

                            Gender is a social construct but dicks/vagines are not and it’s okay to not be attracted to any of them.

                            mate, you made this about genitals. and to restate the point one more time: genital preferences don't have a fucking thing to do with attraction to trans people because you can't fucking see them until you've already gotten in their pants.

                            it's the same deal with any other deal breaker about trans bodies - you fundamentally don't know whether a person is cis or trans until they've told you.

                              • the_river_cass [she/her]
                                ·
                                4 years ago

                                do you really not see the difference between your hypothetical and generalizing that lack of attraction to all trans people? I can't tell if you're being obtuse just to win an argument at all costs or if this is genuinely beyond your capacity to understand.

                                "I'm not attracted to trans women because I'm not attracted to penises" is transphobic exactly because it's not related to any particular trans person (unlike your hypothetical) and instead an assumption about the bodies of all trans women.

                                  • the_river_cass [she/her]
                                    ·
                                    4 years ago

                                    again: assuming something of the whole category that only applies to a subset is definitionally prejudicial.

                                      • the_river_cass [she/her]
                                        1·
                                        4 years ago

                                        this is the opposite of where you started this discussion by reaffirming genital preferences as a valid reason to not be attracted to trans people.

                          • gay [any]
                            1·
                            4 years ago

                            I am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?

                  • gay [any]
                    4·
                    4 years ago

                    The subtext is evil trans people forcing you to perform oral sex on genitals you don't like!

                      • gay [any]
                        2·
                        4 years ago

                        No

                        Good! Then your original comment is irrelevant to what the post is saying! We love understanding each other.