• nohaybanda [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You're right, but I don't know that we as socialists should encourage this framing. It allows too much room for CEOs and PMC ghouls to point towards market growth parameters (which are still stolen labour abstacted into capitalist numerology) and claim this justifies their obscene salaries.

    • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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      4 years ago

      I can also see how this line of reasoning could be twisted to support underpaying those perceived as being less productive because the chosen metric fails to capture their contributions.

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The framing, even if it were made in good faith (which I doubt), is still woke capitalism at best. No amount of optimisation will make wage labour fair and no amount of emplyee fulfillment research will stop capitalist alienation. These are baked into the code of the system.

        • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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          4 years ago

          These are baked into the code of the system.

          Yes. How do we reach these libs?

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            There is no one way to reach people, since cultural background and material conditions change a lot. Ironically, I think this article could be a great entry point with white collar libs. For every middle management bootlicker who's paid not to think too hard about it, there are at least 10 people under him, who know full well that their jobs are mostly bullshit. Starting a conversation on fair wages can be used to expose a serious contradiction in their way of life. On the one hand, they are exploited and mistreated by their bosses, and most know it deep down. On the other, the capitalist system, if applied "fairly" (by its own rules) would see them driven homeless and starving. At this point bring up the reserve army of labour, and how much power management hold over them. Challenge their ideas of freedom and democracy, when the owner is a feudal lord in all but name. Shit like that.