Hello users of Hexbear,
I wanted to make this post to inform you that hexbear will be temporarily changing to requiring an application for new users. This will stay in effect until after the upcoming pictrs version, and the development of additional mod tooling.
After many complaints mods may begin removing Yakub memes as well as any explicit comment asking a user to post hog, the difference is that while "post hog" is allowed with extreme prejudice commenting "show us your tiny penis" is not allowed, removals will be subject to moderator discretion.
In addition, we would like to reiterate that Hexbear is a space for all our comrades, even if you may not understand their experience, please refrain from labeling a fellow user a wrecker or troll. Using conditions as a pejorative is not allowed, please engage in good-faith and remember the human!
Finally I wanted to hear the user's thoughts, opinions, comments, and proposals regarding Hexbear's recent federation with other lemmy instances.
There are two mod based proposals that I wish to open voting on:
- Should we add sh.itjust.works to the hexbear.net/instances allow-list
- Should we remove lemm.ee from the hexbear.net/instances allow-list
Use 
to vote for removing lemm.ee from the allow-list 11
Use 
to vote for adding sh.itjust.works to the allow-list 111
Use 
to vote for keeping the allow-list as is (lemm.ee on the list and sh.itjustworks off the list) 60
As always thank you to the moderators and users for making this place amazing!
Votes as of Aliveelectricwire please correct me if my count is wrong.
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It was very important that we made the community worse so that we could pat a small number of posters on the back for talking shit with random morons online
it's good for the site's culture to have "normal" people around to interact with, even if a significant amount of that interaction is dunking. we keep our perspective, minimize pointless slapfights among our own users, have more motivation for writing out informative strongly-sourced posts which benefit us all, positively influence the site culture of other sites which would quickly become uncontested neolib nazi bars without us (lemm.ee probably would've turned out this way if we never federated), negatively impact shitty sites (the stuff with blahaj shone a light on their awful moderation which really pissed off quite a few of their own users), and brings in a steady flow of cool users from those shitty instances back here.
in short: federation is good folks
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the issue is there are too many posts on hexbear about fights with libs, and they're not even all quarantined to the_dunk_tank. I hate the "look how stupid this lib is" posts.
Actual, live libs in the comments don't bother me, we dogpile the mean ones and educate the nice ones and it's fun either way. It's just the constant posting about libs that wears me out
I'm not on hexbear to spend all my time thinking about libs lol, I'm on hexbear because I like hexbear. I like the riffs, and the topics, and the cool knowledgeable users who post shit I would never see otherwise. I've filled the notes app on my phone with quotes and links and articles from here.
I don't care about other sites, the value I found in this one is that it wasn't constantly struggling with waves from the other cesspools online. We had no lack of really well written and informative material from our local users already, and if evangelizing to other sites to get their good users to come over here was important then it could have been done by making accounts there and inviting people all the same.
As someone who was on the fence about federation before I wholeheartedly agree. Also it has resulted in some of the funniest shit I have ever seen.
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just click 'local' instead of 'all' at the top of the feed
I do, that doesn't hide people from other instances in ours, nor does it change that the site's culture was sacrificed so that some users can brag about their epic dunks or so that other users can roleplay being the vanguard by trying to convert terminally online libs
Those are fair objections, thankfully instance blocking is coming, which addresses one thing. I suspect a lot of the furore will die down over coming weeks and months, too. Federation is still recent and big in peoples' minds.
Inside you have two wolves within you, one of them contains two wolves, and so on
Same here. One of my favourite parts of this site was that it wasn't terminally self-obsessed. Now it feels like more than half the posts are just going on and on about who we've federated with, drama with other communities, our superiority over all their libbish ways, etc etc. On the other hand... I guess a few cool people found us because of that? But surely other people left because of all this nonsense. It's definitely the most I've ever considered leaving the site.
I think the solution to that is banning naval gazing posts like that rather than banning other people posting here.
no, no, you see if you set hexbear to local you can uhh... still see all of the site drama posts... and all of the trolls from other sites... and active sorting is still broken
and in an indeterminate amount of months you'll be able to block individual instances, which will hide half of the site's comments from you completely if at any point in a thread someone from a blocked site comments on it
but don't worry, we have a new user application now, even though none of the other sites we're federated with have them, so any wrecker can just sign up at randomfuckignsite.lemmy.poopass and immediately post here anyway!
Conflating this with federation is very dishonest. Everyone knows active sort sucks now and I'd like it to be improved but it doesn't suck because of federation and wouldn't be improved by defederating.
it was more of a retort to people saying "just use local it's just like the pre-federation site!" than "federation directly destroyed my active sort with a J-20 fighter jet"
Ok so you're mad that the barely usable site which was broken in a variety of ways has been updated to a better, stronger foundation and that not every feature is exactly perfect yet. Just seems childish.
no, i said what i said
I know, what you said meant the same as my recap. It wasn't a question.
ah so its just a reading mistake thing, gotcha
Because it's funny.