This is in no way equivalent hahaha. What kinda swill do they hand out in the IRA breakrooms these days?
Russia is invading the heartland of another distinct ethnicity and purging it. Ukraine is not doing that. It is simply clamping down on political liberties to ensure a stable war economy and political situation. This happens in every country that is forced to fight for it's own existence.
Rescuing children from a warzone is genocide? Are you serious, you do realize the majority of those children are native Russian speakers and are reunited with their families when they're located, like you do know those basic facts right, and aren't just talking out your ass?
Those children should have been led to Ukraine to reunite with their Ukranian relatives since they are citizens of Ukraine. And if you are not talking out of your ass, would you kindly provide proof that they're "reunited with their families when they're located" and not just assigned to whichever family is keen to get govt money for raising kids?
MF the Ukrainian state doesn't give a shit about Russian-speaking children or their relatives, hence the fact millions of Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens fled to Russia, their relatives are in Russia and if they're not then it's the responsibility of the Kiev regime to negotiate in good faith with the Russian authorities to reunite the families, but again the nazis in Kiev don't give a fuck about the children beyond their use as propaganda tools
You literally don't know basic facts about Ukraine or the conflict, instead of basing your takes on your bullshit intuition maybe go do some basic research
Why do you assume children from ethnically russian regions, who statistially are more likely to speak russian would be better off being sent to Ukraine than Russia?
lmao the Ukrainian state was committing those actions before the invasion you dumb fuck, hence the civil war between the years 2014 and 2022, also trying to erase the identity of half your population is not an example of a wartime measure, it's ethnic cleansing and the Ukrainians are pretty open about it
Hence why the separatist Russian-speaking regions (especially Crimea) should win the war and prevent the expansion of state backed neo-nazism
Russian and Ukranian are almost the same language, as different as modern English is from Shakespearian English
Why do white people try to create ethnic differences where none exist? Russians and Ukranians are visually / genetically / culturally pretty much identical. It's like saying North Korea invaded South Korea to purge it of Koreans!
God no. I think there's some misinterpretation here. I was saying that blocking the media of an invading country does not equate to genocide. That's it.
I'm fine admitting the misinterpretation was mine. In that case I think it's a bit too far, also considering the large number of Russian speakers within Ukraine
Here, you attempt to flame Ukraine for shutting down humanitarian corridors because Russians attack them, and your source also states that Russians attack them? Do you even read your sources?
The intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. Russia is doing that to Ukraine.
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This is in no way equivalent hahaha. What kinda swill do they hand out in the IRA breakrooms these days?
Russia is invading the heartland of another distinct ethnicity and purging it. Ukraine is not doing that. It is simply clamping down on political liberties to ensure a stable war economy and political situation. This happens in every country that is forced to fight for it's own existence.
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Kidnapping Ukranian children and forcibly adopting them into Russian families is genocide. It is an explicit attempt to erase Ukranian culture.
Rescuing children from a warzone is genocide? Are you serious, you do realize the majority of those children are native Russian speakers and are reunited with their families when they're located, like you do know those basic facts right, and aren't just talking out your ass?
Those children should have been led to Ukraine to reunite with their Ukranian relatives since they are citizens of Ukraine. And if you are not talking out of your ass, would you kindly provide proof that they're "reunited with their families when they're located" and not just assigned to whichever family is keen to get govt money for raising kids?
MF the Ukrainian state doesn't give a shit about Russian-speaking children or their relatives, hence the fact millions of Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens fled to Russia, their relatives are in Russia and if they're not then it's the responsibility of the Kiev regime to negotiate in good faith with the Russian authorities to reunite the families, but again the nazis in Kiev don't give a fuck about the children beyond their use as propaganda tools
You literally don't know basic facts about Ukraine or the conflict, instead of basing your takes on your bullshit intuition maybe go do some basic research
those kids were returned when Ukraine asked for them back
Why do you assume children from ethnically russian regions, who statistially are more likely to speak russian would be better off being sent to Ukraine than Russia?
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lmao the Ukrainian state was committing those actions before the invasion you dumb fuck, hence the civil war between the years 2014 and 2022, also trying to erase the identity of half your population is not an example of a wartime measure, it's ethnic cleansing and the Ukrainians are pretty open about it
Hence why the separatist Russian-speaking regions (especially Crimea) should win the war and prevent the expansion of state backed neo-nazism
Perhaps the Ukrainians should concentrate the population that shows Russian sympathy into small camps
You know, to keep a better eye on them and to ensure the security of the Ukrainian identity against the perfidy of the Russian abhumans
Funny that one of the Baltic states proposed exactly this.
lemme guess
SStonia?
Do you think Russia is running death camps? Where are these purges supposedly taking place?
Why do white people try to create ethnic differences where none exist? Russians and Ukranians are visually / genetically / culturally pretty much identical. It's like saying North Korea invaded South Korea to purge it of Koreans!
"not submitting to the ideological propaganda pushed by your oppressor is literally genocide"
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Well that depends, is China invading my country?
okay so genocide is a maybe for you
why is it that every time a .dev shows up they immediately start going full nazi
hackernews brain
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God no. I think there's some misinterpretation here. I was saying that blocking the media of an invading country does not equate to genocide. That's it.
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I'm fine admitting the misinterpretation was mine. In that case I think it's a bit too far, also considering the large number of Russian speakers within Ukraine
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proof?
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By this metric all war is genocide
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Ukraine uses child soldiers and brag about it so it's a wholesome thing now I guess.
Are you saying that there are only two options? You either leave them to die or indoctrinate them into Russian families? No in-between?
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you havent sourced all ur claims, you hide unsourced claims in between claims backed with the flimsiest sources. wikipedia warrior, go back to
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source?
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Here, you attempt to flame Ukraine for shutting down humanitarian corridors because Russians attack them, and your source also states that Russians attack them? Do you even read your sources?
And this doesn't even mention that, when Russia opened their own humanitarian corridors, they conveniently only led to Russian or allied Belarusian territory (instead of back to Ukraine, where a lot of these fleeing Ukranians wanted to go).
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So they set up in this "strategic" care home and refused to assist an evacuation? That's a nightmare
Hmmm
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Well that was a horrifying read.
what would you do, oh paragon of morality? give them to ur heroic western human traffickers?
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no. im claiming that opportunistic westerners are coming into Ukraine to kidnap women and children. here’s a UN report. an article and one woman’s story
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this is the only part of ur comment that could feasibly be considered genocide and you didnt provide a source. and wikipedia isnt a reliable source
and Ukraine has been bombing civilian centers for the past decade. and that is well documented. maybe Ukraine is the real genocidal power
No just no. I lot of Ukrainians live in Russia or fled to russia. Russia would've started with them first if they wanted to do something that.
It's a imperialist war at best started to secure a very strategically important location.