do you think a majority of politicians would just suddenly change their tune on israel if they cut back on lobbying? israel’s continued existence is beneficial to the imperial bourgeoisie.
You just contradicted yourself right here lol. Who is the "imperial bourgeoise"?????
Israel has been lobbying in the US government since the 80s with both political parties, who accuse each other of not protecting Israel enough. There's more than money involved, as it also revolves around who the US has targeted in the middle east since then. Look up some of the wars Israel has committed since then with US backing.
“le israels the us shadow government” type shit
I didn't even suggest this LOL. I pointed out how powerful their lobbying in the US government is. I also mentioned Saudi Arabia doing similar things, all of which has been proven as well. Israel and Saudi Arabia just so happen to be the two foreign countries with the most lobbying involved in the US government. But according to you, it's the "imperial bourgeoise" lol.
hey just jumping in here i actually agree with both of you but i think you guys are coming in from a place were both of the things you guys are saying can't be true at the same time, which i disagree, like in my view israel is vasal state and it also lobbies america, like israel existence complements the american state interests which are at the moment not lose the middle east to china silk road plan, keep selling guns to countries and not lose their place as the hegemon, and i don't think that israel could say no to america in any sense if american interests ever came to a blow with israeli interests and the lobbying is also a thing it makes politicians that have interests in having israel support win their elections and so they can keep the american interests the same as theirs like i don't see how these two things couldn't happen at the same time things tend to have more than one reason like a lot of people are involved
You just contradicted yourself right here lol. Who is the "imperial bourgeoise"?????
Israel has been lobbying in the US government since the 80s with both political parties, who accuse each other of not protecting Israel enough. There's more than money involved, as it also revolves around who the US has targeted in the middle east since then. Look up some of the wars Israel has committed since then with US backing.
I didn't even suggest this LOL. I pointed out how powerful their lobbying in the US government is. I also mentioned Saudi Arabia doing similar things, all of which has been proven as well. Israel and Saudi Arabia just so happen to be the two foreign countries with the most lobbying involved in the US government. But according to you, it's the "imperial bourgeoise" lol.
hey just jumping in here i actually agree with both of you but i think you guys are coming in from a place were both of the things you guys are saying can't be true at the same time, which i disagree, like in my view israel is vasal state and it also lobbies america, like israel existence complements the american state interests which are at the moment not lose the middle east to china silk road plan, keep selling guns to countries and not lose their place as the hegemon, and i don't think that israel could say no to america in any sense if american interests ever came to a blow with israeli interests and the lobbying is also a thing it makes politicians that have interests in having israel support win their elections and so they can keep the american interests the same as theirs like i don't see how these two things couldn't happen at the same time things tend to have more than one reason like a lot of people are involved
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