• Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want, as could Putin.

    Reality is the Russians invaded. They rejected world order.

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        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Right right, which countries acknowledge that Palestine exists again?

          You don’t care. You’ve never cared! Stop lying to our fucking faces you gremlin, you love this! You love this war because you’re a mindless western drone that loves cheering for imperialism and the deaths of the enemies of ‘the west’

          You don’t give a single fuck about countries sovereignty, nor of human rights, nor of life and liberty

          Fuck off

        • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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          World order is acknowledging sovereign countries exist and it's wrong to invade them

          The United States has invaded many more countries than Russia and China, and yet they are sanctioned for doing so/if America thinks they might do so, while not a single person in the American government is punished for the deaths of millions. They even get promoted and hired again on later governments! America created the world order! Rules for thee, not for me!

                • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Sure, there's no power imbalance between the global hegemonic ruler and its "allies". The fact that on paper they each get a vote means its perfectly equal

                • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  libs will say this and then turn around and say "BRICS is just an arm of China, it's dominated by them economically"

                  (not that that point is entirely false, BRICS is indeed economically dominated by China and I wonder if there would be half as much interest for countries to join if China wasn't in it, but India is a pretty big counterweight to China's power in BRICS in practice)

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    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want

      The Ukrainian government could, the same government that banned every political party that wasn't sufficiently anti-Russia. And the last time the people got to vote, they elected Zelensky who ran as a peace candidate. So no, the people of Ukraine, the ones being drafted and sent to the front lines, have very little say over whether Ukraine negotiates for peace.

      • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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        1 year ago

        Wait a minute...you expect a country to tolerate those sympathetic with a country.that they're at war with?

        • s0ykaf [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          why is it that every ukkkraine shill acts like history started in february 2022

          a lot of those bannings were pre-2022

        • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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          "Wait a minute" None of this surprises you. Youre doing this for show. You want us to feel guilty about our beliefs, and your plan is to act shocked and bewildered by things you know. Begone debate-pervert

          • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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            1 year ago

            There were Nazi groups in the US at the beginning of WWIi. They were quite large. Within a year, every leader of the Bund was interned or jailed as dangerous aliens, and by the end of December 1941, the US Government outlawed the German-American Bund

            • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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              OK Wikipedia fact-of-the-day bot. Dont see what this has to do with the comment, or the one above, but can you put the human back on the line please?

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          • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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            1 year ago

            The US jailed every leader of the US Nazi Bund as dangerous aliens, and by the end of December 1941, the US Government outlawed the German-American Bund.

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              • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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                The US jailed and outlawed a group sympathetic to their enemy during WWII. So, I'm not shocked that Ukraine did the same thing.

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            • Adkml [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              "The american governemnt banned nazi sympathizers, please don't look too closely into our post war rocket programs"

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      The world order where the US is allowed to invade Iraq and kill a million people on a lie? That world order?

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          • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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            "I never said they weren't." You said that because Ukraine drafts fighters they don't want to fight. That's BS.

            There has been no Russian yearning for peace talks. Even china's efforts could not move the needle.

            Newsflash: calling someone comrade does not imply anything

            Name a US president wanted by the International Criminal Court.

            Putin is stupid. Prigozhin's coup did have support and now he's dead.

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              • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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                I never said they weren't."

                The Russians are being forcibly conscripted and banned from leaving the country. That's not bs, they do not want to fight. If they wanted to fight, forcible conscription would not be necessary. Banning people from fleeing forcible conscription would not be necessary.

                See how easy that is? Moot

                I never said the ICC. I said every US president is wanted for war crimes in severa...

                That's because there isn't one. However Putin is.

                In retrospect do you think invadeing Ukraine was a smart or stupid thing to do?

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                  • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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                    Every country will conscript during times of war, even NATO. However, NATO has 500,000 active troops Your argument is moot.

                    It's not stupid, it's an overreaction. Ha, good one. The US is far from a recession. Where do you come up with this BS?

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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              Name a US president wanted by the International Criminal Court.

              In august of 2002, less than a year before our invasion of Iraq, the US signed the Hague Invasion act into law. There are no Americans on trial for war crimes at the ICC because we officially threatened to war crime them about it.

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      "They rejected world order" I think you should be killed like someone in the Bible