Literally the post that started this was a corner case and obviously I'm only defending corner cases and not the system on the whole which I clearly and vehemently oppose.
Ime I run into more people who see corner cases like that on their own and wonder why the left hates landlords and renting so much and why they don't just buy instead, which is why I think it's more important to have the conversation focused on the main structural issues which are more important anyway, and easier to explain. Like if what you're saying is that there are corner cases where it's basically fine but we should just sweep them under the rug so that nobody gets any ideas and just hope nobody notices, that ain't gonna work.
A lot of people wish they could! Many young people have very poor prospects for being able to own a home.
I'm aware. Not everyone is as sympathetic tho, and plus there are cases where people have the option and choose to rent, which makes the argument less compelling.
Now you see, Mr. Stalin, this Kulak really doesn’t have that much grain to hoard, we can’t attribute any famine deaths directly to them. Sure, it might be more functional to just collectivize the land rather than allow a patchwork of “acceptable cases” through, but have you considered that they work really hard on their farm?
Yeah no I have been abundantly clear the whole time that housing is a human right and I've also clearly stated that I oppose the existence of landlords and am only discussing the actions of individuals in a fundamentally broken system, not any kind of ideal. There is no comparison.
Ok, ok, I get you. I said I'd take a break but I continued because things mellowed out some, don't wanna start shit up. I'd be interested to see stats on that (if for nothing else but to add a talking point to my repertoire), but I will say that part of why my roommate and I were talking about buying a place is that it's probably a better deal, admittedly. But then that's where it could be an edge case where one of us could buy and we could work out a deal, and if that's what made sense for us materially I wouldn't want to say no just because of ideology. That's where I'm coming from.
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Literally the post that started this was a corner case and obviously I'm only defending corner cases and not the system on the whole which I clearly and vehemently oppose.
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Ime I run into more people who see corner cases like that on their own and wonder why the left hates landlords and renting so much and why they don't just buy instead, which is why I think it's more important to have the conversation focused on the main structural issues which are more important anyway, and easier to explain. Like if what you're saying is that there are corner cases where it's basically fine but we should just sweep them under the rug so that nobody gets any ideas and just hope nobody notices, that ain't gonna work.
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I'm aware. Not everyone is as sympathetic tho, and plus there are cases where people have the option and choose to rent, which makes the argument less compelling.
Yeah no I have been abundantly clear the whole time that housing is a human right and I've also clearly stated that I oppose the existence of landlords and am only discussing the actions of individuals in a fundamentally broken system, not any kind of ideal. There is no comparison.
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Ok, ok, I get you. I said I'd take a break but I continued because things mellowed out some, don't wanna start shit up. I'd be interested to see stats on that (if for nothing else but to add a talking point to my repertoire), but I will say that part of why my roommate and I were talking about buying a place is that it's probably a better deal, admittedly. But then that's where it could be an edge case where one of us could buy and we could work out a deal, and if that's what made sense for us materially I wouldn't want to say no just because of ideology. That's where I'm coming from.