programming.dev actually has some pretty cool people that have real discussions after everyone gets to know each other. like we have had some heated threads but almost all of them have resulted in everyone eventually going "huh, learned something new today". They seem to be mostly nerdy internet forum types and that is super cool. startrek.website seems to be the same deal.

Now shit.just.works on the other hand seems to be a bunch of anime profile pic social media users who spout reactionary thought-killing bullshit. No attempt to better understand each other or even defend. Can't even just have a normal discussion about hobbies, entertainment, or tech without one of them jumping in to say something despicable then act outraged when someone asks "wtf, why can't you be normal".