• AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    i think it's some 4chan shit originally, they've been obsessed with the term goy for well over a decade

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Jewish supremacism is a real thing (as we can see from how the IDF treats palestinians) and in Hebrew there is a term for non-jewish people, "goyim". It is sometimes used in a derogatory way. Nazis have decided to capitalize on the existence of this term, and they now use it way more than actual Jewish people do. They love to make memes where, like, some antisemitic caricature calls a white man a "good goy" for having left wing opinions, etc. etc. It's very repugnant stuff. I've seen it for years coming out of nazi cesspits like /pol/. They also love to say that America is a "ZOG" (zionist occupied government). And then some of the neo-pagan nazis like to also pretend that all of Christianity (and sometimes also Islam) is a Jewish psy-op because they're all Abrahamic religions. This is particularly useful rhetoric for them, because it allows them to pretend that the American government, which is overwhelmingly full of white christian straight cisgender men, is some kind of "Jewish" government. Also they let the tail wag the dog with regards to Israel. They pretend that Israel has "colonized" America because they receive so much military aid from America, when really, Israel is mostly a NATO settler-colony in the levant. i.e. the reason Israel receives aid is because they have become a Forward Operating Base for the imperial core bourgeoisie to carry out imperialism in the middle east. Ironically I would also say that Israel is a result of antisemitism in the first place, because the whole reason Jews wanted to set up a Jewish state was because Europeans kept doing pogroms against them.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        And then some of the neo-pagan nazis like to also pretend that all of Christianity (and sometimes also Islam) is a Jewish psy-op because they're all Abrahamic religions. This is particularly useful rhetoric for them, because it allows them to pretend that the American government, which is overwhelmingly full of white christian straight cisgender men, is some kind of "Jewish" government.

        I saw it as funny fascist infighting, but I haven't considered your angle before.

      • RollaD20 [comrade/them, any]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah it just seems so terminally online and out of touch with the real world. to go out into the real world and call yourself the "Goyim Defense League" demonstrates such an intensely warped worldview that just screams 4chan idiot in a way that has to drive away potential support (right???). There are genuinely scary and dangerous looking fash groups in the USA that are almost certainly as bigoted as these dumbasses, but they are better tapped into the American fascist aesthetic.

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          just screams 4chan idiot

          to be fair America is the 4chan of countries, and Florida is the 4chan of states

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      99.999% of Americans are brainless sheeple that treat 4chan like gospel, so of course they'd be familiar with the term "goy".

      • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Nah if you asked what it meant to like 80% of americans they'd think it's some candy company from denmark

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      Most of what's wrong with the internet comes from 4Chan- the people Something Awful insists they threw out because they were too shitty, yet still won't apologize for.