https://hexbear.net/post/50208/comment/467241

  • PhaseFour [he/him]
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    Is this a bit?

    The black liberation struggle has been very much tied to internationalism. The issue is that every leader which builds international relationships gets murdered or is force to flee the country. Assata Shakur, Kwame Ture, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, Robert F. Williams, etc.

    In spite of the countless murders, Black America has been at the vanguard of international solidarity efforts such as anti-Zionism and anti-Apartheid.

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        And again you could only mention other Americans

        Yes? That is who we are talking about lol

        These are leaders who recognized, say, Fanon & Fidel as international heroes. They worked to spread that consciousness to the masses. And they were murdered or forced into exile because they were successful.

        Harlem had several days of celebration when Fidel first visited. Fidel has been hosted countless times in black churches as a liberation hero [1] [2]

        There is so much mass support for Cuba in America's black communities that it has forced their bourgeois representatives in power, the Congressional Black Caucus, to push for normalized relations with Cuba for decades.

          • PhaseFour [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Palestinian Liberation Organization. But what about Isaeli victims??? Why don't the Palestinians march for Israel?

            head completely empty, no thoughts

              • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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                You have gone full CHUD. These are exactly the types of arguments that right wingers make. Why do you care so much about a slogan? Its just a slogan. And Black lives matter was picked because it highlights the fact that American society treats black lives like they dont matter. All Lives matter just invokes the liberal colourblindness that results in the erasure of black oppression.

                Also what the BLM movement is pushing for, the aboltion of the police, would benefit everyone, so you clearly haven't thought about this very much.

            • read_freire [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              almost like a person talking about the 'blacks' has nothing but shitty takes

              screams of either (a) wrecker shit or (b) some wannabe vanguardist who showed up at their local BLM march and got mad that the predominately lib crowd wouldn't chant eat the rich with them

          • rolly6cast [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            is more selfless Narcissistic

            Irrelevant to the matter of success or not and moralizing, and actively harmful to the solidarity along the lines of the "fellow man" you mention. BLM does fight for white victims of police violence too, the goal of abolishing or defunding the police is also something that reduces police violence for white victims. BLM will continue to get coopted by white and black bourgeois liberals, but the movement was not nearly as selfish as you initially presented.