this stems from another conversation on this site.

a commenter used the pronoun "they" because they didn't know the gender. Commenter could have looked at an inactives users profile to see the pronouns were she/her, but they didn't.

So the question is: is it wrong to use pronoun "they" when you simply don't know or needed to know the gender? I was told that "liberals" use it aggressively/offensively to trans people, but most liberals i know aren't smart enough to know about pronouns and how to use them properly.

I've been using "they" to admit gender ignorance all the fuckin time so im just trying to see if im wrong or not. Because ive never heard of this before. and i thought this site had told me everything by now lol

edit: thank you all for the comments. ill certainly try to remember to check pronouns of inactive accounts before i talk about them, but we need to be able to debate from a reasonable position and jumping to "HOW DARE YOU SAY THEY YOU LIB" isn't going to do shit. Lenin created schools to educate workers, Hexbear is our school. and i fucking love this school.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    at this point, there is a weird trend where accounts newer than 3 months old think it's horrible, and 3 year old accounts are ok with it. so that's at least interesting. most people here seems to agree with you, but a few new users take offense to it. We're not going to convince people to join our side if you choose to argue from the most leftist side possible at all times, a side that maybe 5% of the population can understand.

    i keep saying this, but please don't be a parody of ourselves. shit's bad enough as it is.

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah I don't put a ton of stock in account age. I have shitty takes too no doubt. And I took a huge break (funny enough largely because of the user in question). But I am trying my best not to be a lib and do praxis and care for comrades in all their spaces and that's about the best I got.

      • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I don't put a ton of stock in account age.

        im trying not to, but the trend is certainly odd.

        But going to "HOW DARE YOU SAY THEY" is just being TC69 and trying to keep people away from HexBear and therefore we can't change anyones mind. Like, do you want progress or not? It's not easy from our side but it has to be done.(and this only applies to being online. if i could throw every transphobe into a literal pit, i would)

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Honestly this reeks of defensiveness. We aren't trying to crucify you we are trying to correct your behavior, you've got to examine why you're so committed to not being wrong instead of learning because that attitude is the opposite of scientific socialism.

          Also I've been here since the start and never been banned, I'm just into opsec.

          Also about the perception of people attacking you. Trans women being de-gendered with they/them is a super common microaggression. People are justifiably upset even if you initially didn't do anything wrong, you've got to learn that you exist in an information system larger than your self knowledge where you will cause harm and people will react negatively to it because that is the appropriate reaction without attaching any morality to that.