"I'm also a Marxist-Leninist."

liberalism

Both are socialists. I don't think we do ourselves any favors by saying that one of the prominent left politicians in America, who is despised by the Democratic party elite, is a "fake" socialist. Evo and AOC are both important courageous leftists.

The differences between them aren't even that extreme. Evo Morales isn't a Marxist-Leninist or anything, he governed as a moderate reformer and actually was protested by the left for being disappointing on a number of things and not going far enough.

These people are the opportunists you've been warned about. Stop defending them. They're less than useless.

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
    4·
    4 years ago

    It was the shit he said about Evo, that he's a "moderate reformer, not an ML, " and that there was a leftist presence among his opposition (pro-coup propaganda like we've seen in Venezuela, even though it's unintended), as well as equating him and AOC that made me post this. There's numerous things to dump on him for here.

    Anyway, he's not a "fellow leftist", he sucks. If you oppose AES like Cuba, we're not on the same side; if you're anti-Marxist and think Lenin was an evil mass murderer, but see getting more social democrats in the Democratic party as the path to socialism, then we're not on the same side; etc. Basically, he's a good representative of that slice of the "democratic socialist" crowd that I think is holding people back by reinforcing liberal ideology and anticommunist propaganda and shepherding people who could be radicalized back into liberal reformism when the world is actively burning and decaying before our eyes. Calling out this opportunist bullshit is meant to clarify where these people stand and why they're not helpful to us or on our side.

    People are shitting on him a lot lately, and I honestly think that's great. And I also don't get why so many people are getting upset over his shit takes getting posted in the dunk tank. That's literally what this sublemmy is for.

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
        3·
        4 years ago

        So do you have a specific problem with anything I said or are you just here to complain about dunks in the dunk tank?

          • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
            3·
            4 years ago

            Ok.

            post hoc justification

            "These people are the opportunists you’ve been warned about. Stop defending them. They’re less than useless."

            Right from my post.

            And this was what I was responding to:

            So why bag on NJR for saying the same thing? Jumping down the throats of fellow leftists over minor shit will get us nowhere.

            So I elaborated on what I said in the post from the beginning: opportunists bad, so we should dunk on them. Here's what's wrong with NJR's take.

            So it's not a post hoc justification, it's the whole point of the post. Why does dunking on bad takes bother you?