GET HIS ASS MR PRESIDENT

  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    dude the numbers don't lie, thousands less civilians died under trump than obama. like many, many thousands.

    trump is a piece of shit, no doubt, but a war monger he is not. he actively opposed it. the articles on the subject are begging to label him a "war president", but the defense department annually releases civilian casualties and trump's max count is about 13,000 after four years. one is too many, but 13,000 is less than the hundreds of thousands that die under previous administrations every time.

    • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Who the fuck mentioned Obama? Your suggesting Trump is against war which is as dumb as chuds thinking he's anti establishment

      https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/trump-yemen-war-civilian-deaths/

        • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          My article is countering your assertion that acthually he's not an imperialist. Bringing up Obama is pointless since he was also an imperialist.

          From the article:

          As soon as Trump came into office, civilian deaths in the conflict soared. Under his presidency, the U.S.-led coalition air and artillery campaign in Iraq and Syria against the terrorist group killed up to 13,000 civilians

          Don't forget this was just one term

          • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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            4 years ago

            but the defense department annually releases civilian casualties and trump’s max count is about 13,000 after four years. one is too many, but 13,000 is less than the hundreds of thousands that die under previous administrations every time.

            that was his whole presidency.

            we're comparing this to the hundreds of thousands of lives lost in previous administrations

            edit: to simplify, when your kill count is only at 10% of the previous guys, the military industrial complex isn't going to get behind you as their guy.

            • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              No you're comparing this. I'm saying he's an imperialist like the rest of them. Also my article debunks that 13,000 number since it states 13k civilians died from US campaign in Syria and Iraq alone under Trump. It doesn't even include the civilians that died in Yemen.

              And his whole presidency was just 1 term, what are you talking about

              Also what hundreds of thousands does under Obama?

              • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                4 years ago

                to simplify, when your kill count is only at 10% of the previous guys, the military industrial complex isn’t going to get behind you as their guy.

                • MonkeyThink [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Stop being an apologist for Trump. Just because Obama was an imperialist, it does not mean that Trump wasn't. Killing tens of thousands of civilians in just 4 years with coup attempt in Venezuela, supporting the coup in Bolivia, to bombing a top Iranian official, etc. It all makes him an imperialist. I'm also not sure where you're getting the 10% number or how your tallying civilians killed under Obama. But bringing up Obama is a complete non sequitur on your assertion that Trump is in some ways not an imperialist

                  • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    his death count is lower than his predecessor and he's pulled troops out consistently. the definition of expanding upon imperialism would be literally doing the direct opposite of what he did.