How did the dictators and the state enforced hierarchy fucking go? Maybe its a time to look at what happened and move on from your texts that no one cares about anymore. Why would i need to read capital to understand that everyone has a right to housing and food and to not be opressed by any ruling hierarchies if im too utopian were not going to see anything promising like the early communist china or ussr again
I care about the tankies being wiped out their authoriatarianism didnt achieve the space race or anything like that instead they held all great that they could have become becuase they needed the state byreucracy to enforce their status
and you refuse to see that you're wrong & USSR actually allowed for dissent elsewhere, and provided ballast to something like "social democracy" and Keynesianism taking firm root in the West lol
i didn't say USSR was perfect. but you're being needlessly contrarian just because you think you could build socialism without states
all I am saying is, prove it
offer one piece of evidence that USSR was evil. all you seem to be doing is providing evidence of your own anti-communism & lack of concern with economic exploitation
The whole authoritarian experiement was failure from the start if they fucking repesented the poeple how could it degenerate in to the 80s and modern day russia i would ever only call the leaders like lenin or stalin evil ussr itself was just tool for the ruling class to project power
again, Russia's deterioration didn't really take off until after the collapse in 1991 & food shortages & decline in standards of living returned in the mid-90s when capitalism took root again.
additionally, you've provided no evidence of your position
almost like you're here just to whine & complain and be contrarian hehe. weird that you're not very good at it, persistent tho!
How did the dictators and the state enforced hierarchy fucking go? Maybe its a time to look at what happened and move on from your texts that no one cares about anymore. Why would i need to read capital to understand that everyone has a right to housing and food and to not be opressed by any ruling hierarchies if im too utopian were not going to see anything promising like the early communist china or ussr again
you don't care about texts, you don't care about the success of past ML/socialist projects
what exactly do you care about other than not having to work?
I care about the tankies being wiped out their authoriatarianism didnt achieve the space race or anything like that instead they held all great that they could have become becuase they needed the state byreucracy to enforce their status
it "didn't achieve the space race"? is that your expert opinion?
are you sure you're here in good faith?
bureaucracy isn't exclusive to ML states of the 20th century.
Nothing you're talking about is exclusive to ML states of the 20th century lol
you just fucking refuse to see that the soviet union was more than just some fucking corrupt central party
and you refuse to see that you're wrong & USSR actually allowed for dissent elsewhere, and provided ballast to something like "social democracy" and Keynesianism taking firm root in the West lol
i didn't say USSR was perfect. but you're being needlessly contrarian just because you think you could build socialism without states
all I am saying is, prove it
offer one piece of evidence that USSR was evil. all you seem to be doing is providing evidence of your own anti-communism & lack of concern with economic exploitation
The whole authoritarian experiement was failure from the start if they fucking repesented the poeple how could it degenerate in to the 80s and modern day russia i would ever only call the leaders like lenin or stalin evil ussr itself was just tool for the ruling class to project power
wrong, plenty of ML states still exist
again, Russia's deterioration didn't really take off until after the collapse in 1991 & food shortages & decline in standards of living returned in the mid-90s when capitalism took root again.
additionally, you've provided no evidence of your position
almost like you're here just to whine & complain and be contrarian hehe. weird that you're not very good at it, persistent tho!
Youre just fucking delusional