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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    i agree great man theory is garbage, which is why the achievements of the Soviet & PRC & Vietnamese & Burkinabe & Cuban and other people were not the achievements of a few "important" individuals

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            to your implication or suggestion that I am making a Great Man argument for ML projects, bc I am not

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                okay, but I just told you that ML projects are not based on the spurious bourgeois misrepresentations of economic/cultural historiography

                You said "Fine", so if you can believe that ML projects depended on millions of unnamed & devoted people rather than a few "charismatic leaders", then you admit that Great Man theory doesn't relate to socialist history hardly at all

                so please, I would beg you stop projecting your own beliefs about history onto others.

                Mao and Stalin & Castro did not achieve everything alone, but historiography in the West is geared in this way. Almost anything we read is steeped in these false ideological conventions regardless, just by nature of being written in the capitalist West

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    you just said multiple times that too many arguments promoting ML states are "run through" and unacceptably based on Great Man theory, but then failed to point out how this was the case whether anecdotally or with examples or in any statistical fashion

                    this isn't personal... and socialism isn't based on personality disputes lol.

                    again, we are getting bogged down in trying to map our biased and often subconscious Western heuristics onto 20th century anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist realities