Hey! I sometimes have a hard time parsing tone over text. It seems to me others do as well, since I've seen a bunch of people commenting on the levels of irony on hexbear.
While we're all supportive of tone clarifiers, we don't want to use /s because that would turn this instance into Reddit. I sometimes think that sentiment is silly, but I can see where it's coming from and in general I agree with it.
I would however like to ask that we implement a rule so that the question "is this a bit/are you being sarcastic?" Has to be answered with honesty, if the person asked answers. Like you don't have to answer, but if you do you have to be honest.
Me 5 years ago enjoying big big sarcasm and irony posting:
Now knowing there is 5+ years of chapo/hexbear inside jokes, gags, lore that's practically developed into a niche proto-language:
The urge to ask “is this a bit?” is incredibly strong right now. I do think it’s a good idea, though.
I’m not doing a bit! If I were doing a bit I would have just asked if you were doing a bit, but I felt it was a little too on the nose in this context. Temptation was there, though.
Haha I was doing a bit asking though! Going for the recursive loop. Thanks for taking it seriously and answering sincerely though
As someone who likes to do bits with a straight face to rile up the more earnest people in my life, I consider it proper etiquette to admit to doing a bit the moment someone either takes the bait fully or asks if I’m being serious. It’s sort of like catch and release fishing, but instead of fish it’s people who aren’t terminally irony poisoned.
Yeah I sort of have the same attitude. Dead-pan sarcasm can be incredibly funny, but you should not leave people hanging in doubt.
We'll need a bit clarification parse tree, and a semantic bit analyzer, and a bit symbol table, and...
Pretty reasonable. I don't like using tone indicators, even though I know they are helpful for some, because I love ambiguity. I love the richness of possibility of meaning.
But if somebody asks me outright for clarification of my meaning, I'll generally answer honestly.
Your angle is good enough for me.
I've seen you fuck with liberals by pretending to agree with them until they veer off the road.
i agree, especially to people spreading misinformation as a joke.
if the user is from here assume bit if the user is from elsewhere assume sus
Agreed!
This is a bit:
Show
This is not a bit:
Show
Or when you don't understand how a kilogram of steel weighs the same as a kilogram of feathers, and when it becomes obvious that everyone else understands and is confused at how you're confused, the only way you can preserve a shred of dignity is to say you're doing a bit
I find a lot of bits exhausting unless they're clearly labeled even if that doesn't make me as irony-poisoned-cool as some internet people would otherwise demand of me.
I think what exhausts me is when I ask "is this a bit" and I either get mocked for asking, it's assumed I'm asking in bad faith or I get a bit answer.
When one posts "I unironically think we should actually just kill every single english person" and I then ask "are you doing a bit? Sometimes people use unironically ironically" and they then answer "no, not a bit" but it is a bit, I get fucking exhausted.Some of my least favorite experiences in internet conversation that didn't involve outright stalking or other exceptionally fucked up shit involved "you didn't get my very le clever very le ironic joke, you are stupid and bad" victory lapping that goes on for basically forever afterward for that particular irony-poisoned anti-comedian.
Do you have any particular comms youd like this for? List them, and if I mod any, I'll make a thread tomorrow putting it to a vote (its 2AM here and insomnia is a fuck so please remind me).
its 2AM here and insomnia is a fuck so please remind me.
Haha yeah I've been on the same train for a while now myself. I've started journaling and then some light stretching half an hour before bed, and that does a lot.
Do you have any particular comms youd like this for?
I don't have any particular I was thinking of, I was thinking it would be site-wide like the disengage rule. In general I find it a bit hard to keep up when different Comms have different rules, so I try to just think of them all as general rules.
But I appreciate the sentiment, and if nothing else happens I'd love to see it implemented in your Comms at least, though I'd prefer it to be site-wide.
We can have tags like /b for "bit" and /b for "being sincere"
for future reference if i ever ask if something is a bit, i want you to flip a coin and answer me based on that
fuck our ND comrades I guess.
