Don't you know that any potential leader is probably just a grifter? If you want to build an effective leftist movement, you have to have no leaders whatsoever. Directionless resentment is surely the only way forward.

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We don't even have a working class movement in the US but you're going to compare it to Soviet councils? LOL.

    Movements do need hierarchy and leaders and the left has none of that in the US. Compare it to the far right. They have a central figure they rally around (Trump), who do we have? No one. Maybe it was Sanders, but the left is so divided and infights over the most stupid petty bullshit, that he wasn't good enough before dropping out and shilling for Biden.

    And Occupy was a shitshow and I would know cause I was involved and following it from day 1. Occupy was proof that the bourgeoise are not intimidated or threatened by peaceful protests. It led to nothing and went out with a whimper.

    • chapoid [none/use name]
      1·
      4 years ago

      Movements do need hierarchy and leaders and the left has none of that in the US

      Because they're all dead or in jail you fucking genius

    • chapoid [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Occupy was proof that the bourgeoise are not intimidated or threatened by peaceful protests. It led to nothing and went out with a whimper.

      Riiiiight, which is why they had a massive police presence from day one, were under constant harassment by cops, and went out with a violent raid nationally coordinated by the FBI. Fuck off.

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy