The anarchists could just become Marxists already and we could stop fighting
Edit: Marxists are never going to become anarchists en masse in the same way athiests are never going to become Eastern Orthodox en masse. Anarchism and Marxism are incompatible, one calling for the immediate dissolution of the state and the other calling for a dictatorship of the proletariat. Anarchism has never won anything.
How do you all see this playing out? There is no other viable outcome except for the anarchists to all wise up and get on board the real global movement. In every other outcome, the former anarchists lose. There is only one path for an anarchist to communism, and it’s through Marxism. So grow up and get with the program and 90% of the global left.
You mean anarchists have coopted certain non-threatening bits of Marx after getting owned by Marxism so hard they became (even more) irrelevant.
Anarchism is an idealist philosophy. Marxism is a materialist philosophy. There is no philosophical alignment except by happenstance, and all that anarcho-Marxists are doing is butchering and creating an incoherent abomination.
mate you need to chill a little. calling everyone who's not an ml/mlm a "counter-revolutionary" is really annoying. it's not like your ideologies brought communism either for fucks sake.
Honestly, capitalism is gonna collapse all by itself. We don't need to "overthrow" it at all. What we absolutely need to do is make sure when it happens (which would probably be a long process rather than one singular event, though the final blow will, obviously, be a massive one), we are ready with an alternative that makes life better for all and doesn't allow zombie capitalism to rise. if we can't do that, then it's either the resurrected corpse (or more likely, chud fascism/feudalism).
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jesus christ let's not please. i'm tried of the constant infighting.
The anarchists could just become Marxists already and we could stop fighting
Edit: Marxists are never going to become anarchists en masse in the same way athiests are never going to become Eastern Orthodox en masse. Anarchism and Marxism are incompatible, one calling for the immediate dissolution of the state and the other calling for a dictatorship of the proletariat. Anarchism has never won anything.
How do you all see this playing out? There is no other viable outcome except for the anarchists to all wise up and get on board the real global movement. In every other outcome, the former anarchists lose. There is only one path for an anarchist to communism, and it’s through Marxism. So grow up and get with the program and 90% of the global left.
lol
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Well Marxism is objectively correct and a science, so those who harbor utopian ideals should dispel them in favor of proven methods
there's a difference between marxists and ml/m. a lot of anarchism overlaps with a lot of marxism. less so with ml/m.
You mean anarchists have coopted certain non-threatening bits of Marx after getting owned by Marxism so hard they became (even more) irrelevant.
Anarchism is an idealist philosophy. Marxism is a materialist philosophy. There is no philosophical alignment except by happenstance, and all that anarcho-Marxists are doing is butchering and creating an incoherent abomination.
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mate you need to chill a little. calling everyone who's not an ml/mlm a "counter-revolutionary" is really annoying. it's not like your ideologies brought communism either for fucks sake.
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Honestly, capitalism is gonna collapse all by itself. We don't need to "overthrow" it at all. What we absolutely need to do is make sure when it happens (which would probably be a long process rather than one singular event, though the final blow will, obviously, be a massive one), we are ready with an alternative that makes life better for all and doesn't allow zombie capitalism to rise. if we can't do that, then it's either the resurrected corpse (or more likely, chud fascism/feudalism).
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...because otherwise it's fascism that'll take over? or feudalism? or barbarism? or any of the other terrible alternatives?
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“There thing” being imperial cheerleaders and chauvinists?
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Anarchists don’t do the imperialism, they just cheer it on and call the victims red fascists for defending themselves
They would actually need to be capable of achieving any power to do imperialism loool
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