• Smeagolicious [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    not really the type of men

    Isn’t that the problem? This sort of thing labels “real men” as trash, which could cause problems for trans men/trans masc identity

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      4 years ago

      It’s not real men. Why is the asshole piece of shit the real man? What do trans men gain from wanting to associate their masculinity with the godawful masculinity most reasonable men are trying to escape?

      • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        If “all men are trash” is a repeated sentiment, you don’t think that might cause a little undue stress for trans men who are pursuing their own masculine identity? As if this wasn’t the point in shaun’s observation - that generalized hatred toward men is not productive and could even be destructive, whereas criticism of toxic masculinity is necessary

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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          The thought of all men being trash is inherently nonsensical. So putting any undue pressure on yourself over that sentiment is a little silly to me. It speaks to a deep seated anger women might have with the men in their lives, and it might be with just cause; but it’s not your responsibility, and asking women to validate your existence doesn’t solve the problem.