Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them] to menby • 4 years ago

Man hating has consequences

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Man hating has consequences

Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them] to menby • 4 years ago

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But there comes a point where criticism and venting become bullying.

I just think there is a distinction in purely online phenomenon (in mass forums) vs IRL harassment (or anything more persistent). Anyway, I guess all I want to say is that people need to log off so I am going to follow my own advice now (in a bit).

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