• vnbgfhj456 [none/use name]
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    Even outside of the left/right dynamic Biden's cabinet choices are a big sign of the decay within the party. The patronage networks are full up of people who aren't competent or popular as the failures keep piling up from administration to administration. There also aren't enough seats to go around as the dems population base is completely disproportionate to the amount of territory they control. It's going ratchet up the pressure for the bottom of the party to cannibalize the top, but not necessarily along ideological lines as even the moderates aren't going to have a career path unless they can make people like John Kerry fuck off.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Even outside of the left/right dynamic Biden’s cabinet choices are a big sign of the decay within the party.

      There, fixed it

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    i do enjoy the idea of a close biden ally begging them to put sanders in a position or at least trying to do that so they could not look bad and get some goodwill for putting him in a position where he would not be able to do anything by himself and biden refusing to do even that

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      Bernie would not be able to do anything by himself

      This is why I think he shouldn't even touch this fucking admin. He would be throwing away the idea of outsider

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        He would be throwing away the idea of outsider

        Bernie has always been way too civil, and it's doubtful that he's going to kick the habit enough to take a cabinet position and regularly reporting publicly on how the neo-lib bureaucracy prevents any of his meaningful reform from taking effect. He'd get a heart-attack gun for pushing people away from electoralism too effectively.

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        he threw that shit away when he voted to bomb Yugoslavia

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        like i think that biden will be like obama in that his opponent fucked the economy and the country and he is going to take the heat for it while doing nothing so yeah it is a bad idea and if they ever do give bernie a position in the admin it is so they can use bernie's reputation for their advantage

  • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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    Promising influence in the new government to a faction only to snuff them out of important cabinet positions has been a normal strategy of Political Parties in Liberal democracies for like a century, and still people play along with that

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      But real politicians can't be that stupid, right? Bernie knew he was fucked the moment he gave up the primary, right?

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        Bernie is 100% democrat, like we could argue if the Squad of 4 is good or bad, but bernie since his support of the bombing of yugoslavia has shown himself as pro party line of the dems, from supporting their iraq war budgets to calling Biden a good friend, i dont think a Bernie presidency would have been too diferent to a normal democrat one.

        Bernie would have continue the anti-china rhetoric but with socialist critique, the troops would still be overseas, he would prabaly start a war, the only diference is that the USA would have better welfare programs, but to anyone of us in the Global South we would still be under threat of imperialism by Sanders USA

        i dont think bernie minds too much losing, since now he has shown the dems he can trick the working class into voting against their class interest by voting dems and getting nothing

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          Ah yes, we are fucked either way, but I would have liked 80k working class randos not dying for medical debt. And maybe moving the disgusting "overton window" slightly to the left in the most influencing superpower for us, latams.

          The fucking US president saying "healthcare insurance companies are evil" would have a big impact on our own governments' relationships with our own healthcare insurance companies .

          Or so I want to believe.

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            i dont think a slightly left USA is better for us, under JFK back when the US was socdem (before Reagan) they supported the 1964 coup in brazil against a socdem, also the bay of the pigs invasion against Castro, they caused a civil war in costa rica because of a christian socialist, etc.

            we wont be safe from the US if they are socdem again, and the medical debt and other social programs will probably be paid with social imperialism, i dont think a anti-healthcare industry US president will have much effect on our own internal politics with healthcare and i think they will still intervene if we do anything to US companies

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Death to :amerikkka: above everything

              • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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                Like Maradona said: I hate everything that comes from the United States. I hate it with all my strength :amerikkka: :anglo-burn:

        • Rev [none/use name]
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          Yeah he'd in all likelihood have been like a cuddlier version of Carter - still the same destructive genocidal shit going on under a kind starry-eyed grandpa facade. For US citizens things would have definitely gotten a bit more bearable.

          • thelasthoxhaist [he/him]
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            Carter was the president during the indonesian great purge right?, so Sanders would probably finance CIA operations as long as they arent obvious

            • Rev [none/use name]
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              indonesian great purge

              That was Johnson. But otherwise yes.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      I really think this old dude is easier to convince to vote for Bernie than affluent libs.

      Because this dude probably remembers and wants back workers having a decent living.

      Libs are more Reaganists than +70 yo grandpas