Currently reading October but know nothing rn about the middle-end of the USSR

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    idk man my current squeeze is a Ukrainian immigrant, her dad has told me of how utterly fucked the USSR was in the last 20 years of it’s existence.

    And yet it was worse or no better than the neoliberal hollowing out, the resurgence of fascism, the mass poverty and unemployment and homelessness and child prostitution that followed it?

    The vast majority of people did not want the USSR to fall. A western poll carried out a year beforehand demonstrated this. Most people who lived in the USSR regret that it fell, in every post-Soviet country except Uzbekistan for some reason.

    I aint an anarchist but I am a “working government that doesn’t collapse in on itself-ist” and the USSR fails that test by not even making it 65 years.

    An unstable socialist system that allows itself to be coopted is not just as bad as capitalist one. A socialist government that fails to defend itself from internal and external subversion and falls in what was essentially a coup is a tragedy, but to deny that it offered a far better standard of living than what came after and that it actually did allow workers some control over the economy is bullshit.

    • cuckfucker93 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      And yet it was worse or no better than the neoliberal hollowing out, the resurgence of fascism, the mass poverty and unemployment and homelessness and child prostitution that followed it?

      It directly led to that. The USSR's failure led to the 90's.

      The vast majority of people did not want the USSR to fall.

      Yeah, no shit. Most Americans don't want America to fall either. Not that it matters much, the system guarantees failure

      blah blah blah unstable better cappie quality of life

      Ok still fell though. Shit system, dead end style of government. Like you realize that if a country collapses it is proven to be running on a shit foundation right? Especially a world-bestriding colossus like the USSR that manages to kill itself from sheer economic mismanagement