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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1740294
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https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WildingDNC.pdf
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Sing it with me now, folks: 🎶... o'er the laaaaaaand of the freeeee🎶
I do see value in harm reduction, TBH. Dems are shit but, statistically, anti-electoralism is functionally equivalent to voting for the far-right. So, I see it as a way to at least make it take some work for politicians to pretend that the tenets of neoliberalism and fascism are supported by as wide a group as claimed and attempt to reduce their influence in local elections (ex. the coordinated efforts to subvert school boards and have [further] right-wing propaganda taught as fact).
Don't mistake this as actually thinking that Libs are going to help unless forced, though. They're absolutely Lucy in the picture.
I do see value in harm reduction
Categorically, regarding the still-open concentration camps across the southern border, the murderously neglectful lack of a meaningful covid response, the expanded oil drilling and permissive retention of the previous regime's planet-burning deregulation policies and the tax cuts and kickbacks to the rick being maintained, harm is not being reduced at this point.
Relatively speaking, it really still is. It can always get worse. And it would currently be much worse for LGBTQ+ people under a further right-wing government.
It can always get worse.
The more you milk that, the less milk you will get out of it when things are getting worse even after they do what you say.
This is why I'm a leftist not a lib. I vote Democrat bc no choice but I want more progressives in office....
but I want more progressives in office
You're not getting them because that's not what the ruling class wants from the DNC.
Better than voting for gqp. I vote progressive in primaries and forced into the other bc no one has the spines to fix the system to ranked elimination voting. I'm leftist bc at least they're not actively trying to unalive me like the right
I'm leftist bc at least they're not actively trying to unalive me like the right
They'll just kneel in Solidarity with you as the right tries to unalienable you.
Progress.
That's the moderates of the "left" that's actually the right lol
Hahaha no. The moderates are conservatives in sheep's clothing. Nice try tho
They're progressives and if you think otherwise then you're helping the fascists winHahaha Pelosi, Biden and others a progressive? You need to Google shiz, it's free. They're centrists and moderates at best. They don't belong to actual leftist and progressive ideology and no one on this side claims them. Good try tho
they're the only thing standing against actual fascism you tankieSure, while also compromising with the gqp to destroy the effectiveness of any legislation. Her especially needs to freaking retire, yall need to stop with these logical fallacies. Her, rbg and the rest of the moderates over the years have done absolutely NOTHING to actually help people not be in danger from the gqp and their followers. Esp in my state. Do some damn research and stop this bs of calling these moderates what they aren't 🤣
Sounds like you need to put your money where your mouth is and vote harder for the defenders of our democracy
and not undermine it by supporting radical leftists like Mayor Pete you red-fascist tankie
You probably believe a bunch of countries are communists or socialists despite their leaders preventing them actually going there fully. Once you have a dictator or similar leader it defeats the purpose 🤣
Fully aware, but it's either that or allow the other party, which has become increasingly more fascist, back into power.
The differences between them are getting less and less apparent over time.
Biden rolled back next to nothing of his predecessor's policies and executive orders. The border concentration camps are still open for business.
Bruh Republicans are open about backing trump even if he goes to jail. Trump has openly talked about how he wants to get rid of the constitution. They could have prevented him from running again after his failed coup attempt and they let him off the hook.
At least some good has come from the Biden presidency, which tbh I didn't expect at all. Some progress is better than no progress. 15 min wage for federal contract workers, an NLRB that is more pro-union than ever in my lifetime, an actual attempt at student loan debt reduction (which he should just nix via executive order but I digress), a 15% minimum corporate tax rate, bring back microchip manufacturing, and there's more that I can't list off the top of my head.
Babysteps sure, but it's better than nothing and way better than the backwards trajectory we got during the trump presidency and beyond the trump presidency due to his SC appointments.
Perfect? Hell no. But something. We need to take the wins we can get while still hammering him from the left to do more.
Bruh
yourself.But something.
Your "harm reduction" president has not reduced much harm at all, no matter how you scramble in the dirt to try to hold up shiny things to wave at me.
It's just
We need to take the wins we can get
The last three years, especially with covid and climate change, were not wins. Even the pretense of slowing the damage down is weak to false now.
Jesus Christ might as well just give up on everything with your attitude lol
We came to the conclusions because we want to avoid giving up. Once you realize that settling for "harm reduction" is also a form of giving up, you learn to think strategically and read people who think strategically about these things for real improvement. Like Lenin.
Unfortunately harm reduction is all we can do rn, unless you are ready to start a working class revolution, which would require the majority of the working class to be on board with us. And idk about you, but I don't think the American working class is there just yet.
It ain't there because people like you put more energy into performing in electoral theatrics for the enemies of the working class rather than investing that energy in organizing, educating, and agitating your fellow worker.
Or maybe I'm actually trying to help the working class by taking any win we can get whereas you'd rather watch the world burn than see the working class get any kind of win because it's not big enough for you.
I am begging you to take the energy you're putting into convincing others to
and redirect it toward learning to handle a rifle.Lmao tell that to the Russians and Ukrainian workers who are dying by the thousands because of your utopianist belief in "taking any win".
Absolute scum. There is zero difference material difference between you and the Democrats under biden. You can keep saying you're a leftist or that you work in the interests of the working class, but you actions - or lack thereof - speaks louder than any phrasemongering you do.
I'm apparently more of a leftist than you if you're willing to throw the working class under the bus purely because the wins we are getting are smaller than you'd like.. hell, they're smaller than I'd like too. But it's something, which is better than nothing or worse, outright reversals.
All your online posturing is doing absolutely nothing for the working class. Stop throwing around leftist ideals as if you actually give a damn. I wish we were in a better spot, but we aren't. We are here, this is the hand we've been dealt, we have to make the most of it. The alternative is fascism winning, and you and I being lined up and shot like dogs.
And bringing up the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Oh boy, let me guess. You'd rather we stop supporting Ukraine and if it just happens to fall to Russia, so be it? Please..
So some rail unions would like to talk to you about 'taking any win we can get' I'd imagine.
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Yes and I'm still pissed at Biden about that. That doesn't mean he hasn't done good.
How are you doing that except for voting for Biden? The class conscious workers who aren't succeeding in spreading that are the ones at fault, like me (and you, though I'm not convinced of you being class conscious). I'm trying my best though, in many organizations around many topics, to push my analysis further and improve it and the organizations to reach the goals of socialism.
Being a leftist is coming to grips with how bad the situation is
Dude ik shit is bad. I would have much preferred someone else be president rn, but we are stuck with Biden so we have to make due.
And 2024 is going to be Biden v trump again. A shitty matchup, ik, but again we have to make due.
Bring a leftist also means trying to make the most of a bad situation. This isn't about what you or I want, it's about what's right for the working class given our current situation. And between Biden and trump, Biden is far better for the working class than trump could ever be.
Why are you even talking about the presidency at this point? It's not real. You just saw 'the good' party openly admit that it's not democratic and it's against you. You know the same donors run both parties. Why are you still in this framing?
Because 1 party does everything their donors say, the other does most of the stuff their donors say but still shows it's able to be pushed by their voters to do good.
Do you really think that the donor class wanted the recent NLRB rule change that helps unions against union busting? No, but it happened because unlike the Republican party, the Democratic party can be swayed to fight for the working class. Is it perfect? No, but it's something.
But they aren't really swayed, they are playing the good guys to prevent riots. The role they fill, regardless of how any democrat personally feels, is the role of the small concession to prevent riot. It's super helpful to capitalism to have a tiny outlet so that the major exploitation is ignored. It's only "better" when you obsess with the short term goals and can't see the projects over decades and across borders. Sometimes I get it, honestly, like I am never mad at comrades voting for the hope that trans and indigenous comrades aren't genocided. But it's just not good strategy to think about that decision for more than like 4 minutes a year because of the above stated functional argument.
With one hand they give you a ruling that says that if an employer breaks labor law (and the DoL agrees to enforce it), card check gets a union instead of a union vote.
With the other they take away three years of work labor organizing through impossible hoops by breaking the strike of the railworkers, who got nothing to show for it.
What's the point of a union if you can't strike?
We don't 'got' them. They're the enemy. This is a post about them showing you that they're explicitly hostile to you, your politics, and the concept of democracy.
Truly AMERICA is the freest state on earth cuss you can vooooooooooote right? ...Right?
I've been trying to come up with a term to describe this phenomenon for a while now. Privatewashing, maybe?
Westerners are programmed to not accept certain things if done by the government directly. Publishing propaganda? Bad. Laundering government propaganda through private media outlets? Not a problem. Interfering with a foreign election? Bad. Sponsoring a "Private NGO" to do it? Totally fine. Foreign government influencing domestic policy? Bad. Multinational companies paying lobby groups to do the same? Democracy.
In this case, the government telling people that their votes don't count and that rules don't have to be followed would be flagrantly undemocratic. A private organization doing that though? Well we can't do anything about it even if it's directly relevant to the outcome of elections and national policy.
I don’t like “privatewashing”. It sounds like the longest part of my shower, and I’m not thinking about Bernie’s 2016 primary race during it.
You're right. Privatewashing does sound like a chapter in a Jordan Peterson book.
Ok, I get this, but let's take a closer look:
Have you ever seen such a high resolution Pikachu meme? Such a shame it's been wasted on more political rhetoric that no one asked for. More pixels in the damn quotes text, how wild!
Harm reduction, bro. This time it will be different, bro. 
