A direct and targeted attack? It terrified millions of working class NYCers what are you talking about? The majority of the people who actually made up the workforce of those firms wouldn't be bourgeois - someone who's job it was to copy data or answer the phone for the head honcho.
The ash cloud and debris field was damaging to a hell of a lot more than just a handful of rich people who you think deserved it (even if you support lining them up against a wall, I feel like that's different because it would come as part of a broader revolution and not be the outcome of an isolated terrorist attack).
Most attacks on malls don't kill upwards of 3000 people at once. Heck, some malls can't even hold that many inside them.
I'm not saying it was anticapitalist. I'm saying that failing to realise the target was chosen for what was in the buildings and not just because they're tall buildings is pure liberalism, and a view that liberals would love you to have because they absolutely don't want anyone questioning why finance capital would be the target when attacking america with the intent to provoke the reaction they achieved. Because any questioning of what finance capital actually does would lead people to realising the vast majority of these people weren't innocents and that would harm the entire propaganda party that ensued immediately afterwards about all those "poor innocent people who didn't deserve it" as part of the immediate consent manufacturing for the war on terror and axis of evil efforts.
I'm saying that failing to realise the target was chosen for what was in the buildings and not just because they're tall buildings is pure liberalism,
You know that that's what every tall building is right? There's literally a whole thing about how skyscrapers basically exist for capitalism. They chose the WTC because that tall building in particular would be particularly terrifying to watch blow up and collapse for the rest ofnthe city (which you know, is mostly working class people, like everywhere else).
any questioning of what finance capital actually does would lead people to realising the vast majority of these people weren't innocents
Even if every single person of the 3k who died in the WTC was a CEO or high-level management in finance capital, they still wouldn't deserve to die how they did. Even if I personally support lining them up against a wall, I don't cease caring about 9/11 because I want them dead anyways.
Now, in the real world, for every finance capitalist, there is a team of employees, paid hourly, who are not capitalists but are selling their ability to work for a wage like most of us. They were the majority of the people who died in 9/11.
You know that that's what every tall building is right? There's literally a whole thing about how skyscrapers basically exist for capitalism. They chose the WTC because that tall building in particular would be particularly terrifying to watch blow up and collapse for the rest ofnthe city (which you know, is mostly working class people, like everywhere else).
No they fucking didn't. The "rest of the city" has absolutely no impact on decision-making, they are proles with zero power and zero impact on what direction the ruling class takes in foreign or domestic policy. This is nonsense idealism derived from having a sincere belief in liberal democracy.
I physically watched Grenfell burn, in front of my eyes, the whole city of London did. What came of that? Absolutely fuck all. Because it was a building full of proles. Literally nothing has happened over it, not even regulation changes. Zero. Because the ruling class doesn't want it. The notion you have that the average people of the city matter in decision making is fucking absurd.
Even if every single person of the 3k who died in the WTC was a CEO or high-level management in finance capital, they still wouldn't deserve to die how they did.
I agree. They would deserve considerably worse.
Now, in the real world, for every finance capitalist, there is a team of employees, paid hourly, who are not capitalists but are selling their ability to work for a wage like most of us. They were the majority of the people who died in 9/11.
Big time "soldiers are just selling their labour" and shouldn't be judged or wished death upon energy.
A direct and targeted attack? It terrified millions of working class NYCers what are you talking about? The majority of the people who actually made up the workforce of those firms wouldn't be bourgeois - someone who's job it was to copy data or answer the phone for the head honcho.
The ash cloud and debris field was damaging to a hell of a lot more than just a handful of rich people who you think deserved it (even if you support lining them up against a wall, I feel like that's different because it would come as part of a broader revolution and not be the outcome of an isolated terrorist attack).
Most attacks on malls don't kill upwards of 3000 people at once. Heck, some malls can't even hold that many inside them.
I'm not saying it was anticapitalist. I'm saying that failing to realise the target was chosen for what was in the buildings and not just because they're tall buildings is pure liberalism, and a view that liberals would love you to have because they absolutely don't want anyone questioning why finance capital would be the target when attacking america with the intent to provoke the reaction they achieved. Because any questioning of what finance capital actually does would lead people to realising the vast majority of these people weren't innocents and that would harm the entire propaganda party that ensued immediately afterwards about all those "poor innocent people who didn't deserve it" as part of the immediate consent manufacturing for the war on terror and axis of evil efforts.
You know that that's what every tall building is right? There's literally a whole thing about how skyscrapers basically exist for capitalism. They chose the WTC because that tall building in particular would be particularly terrifying to watch blow up and collapse for the rest ofnthe city (which you know, is mostly working class people, like everywhere else).
Even if every single person of the 3k who died in the WTC was a CEO or high-level management in finance capital, they still wouldn't deserve to die how they did. Even if I personally support lining them up against a wall, I don't cease caring about 9/11 because I want them dead anyways.
Now, in the real world, for every finance capitalist, there is a team of employees, paid hourly, who are not capitalists but are selling their ability to work for a wage like most of us. They were the majority of the people who died in 9/11.
No they fucking didn't. The "rest of the city" has absolutely no impact on decision-making, they are proles with zero power and zero impact on what direction the ruling class takes in foreign or domestic policy. This is nonsense idealism derived from having a sincere belief in liberal democracy.
I physically watched Grenfell burn, in front of my eyes, the whole city of London did. What came of that? Absolutely fuck all. Because it was a building full of proles. Literally nothing has happened over it, not even regulation changes. Zero. Because the ruling class doesn't want it. The notion you have that the average people of the city matter in decision making is fucking absurd.
I agree. They would deserve considerably worse.
Big time "soldiers are just selling their labour" and shouldn't be judged or wished death upon energy.