• Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The problem I see is that skepticism about some radical slogans is taken to be tantamount to liberalism

    I agree with that part. And I even agree that "abolish the police" is kind of a dumb thing to get behind. It is just that she did actually talk about how defunding the police is unpopular and it's not a good solution etc. I can't find it right now because I am on mobile but in the recent struggle sesh thread someone posted a link to a reddit thread with all the quotes etc. It was something about how people in affected communities with a lot of crime want more police, not less, etc.

    Urban AND an epicenter of BLM. I’m just saying don’t celebrate prematurely because it might not be representative

    Even if it isn't, and in other cities it is just half that, this is still great.

    • kilternkafuffle [any]
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      4 years ago

      Kk we're on the same page, I'm just willing to give them a greater benefit of the doubt.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah I can actually somewhat understand partly where this is coming from, because I have faced it a lot. Some people think that if you don't embrace their slogans or actions it just means you are not radical enough and it gets kinda stupid, because losing support and getting domed because you don't pay attention to what is going on in society isn't radical, it's just silly. Like, if I was CIA that's exactly what I'd do, it's probably a lot more effective than whatever they are currently doing. Ultraleftism is a big issue with the left in the US as far as I can see. But on the other hand I think it is really dumb to talk about BLM and the demands to defund the police like it's some sort of marginal thing, when it clearly isn't and it's one of the best things the left in the US has done in recent years. Stripping down the police is extremely important for any leftist project.