I had always assumed that if a man had gotten a woman pregnant, then if that pregnancy is carried to term, both partners should be financially responsible for the child regardless whether the man had wanted to have the child or not. The mindset being "they got them pregnant, so you have to face the consequences'".

I was talking with some people online, and they asserted that if the man did not want to have the child, then they should be able to apply to be resolved of any financial responsibility towards caring for it. I was at first against this proposal, but I feel like I now understand it better. Our current legislation was created at a time where abortion was tantamount to murder, and since it was illegal, an obligation of financial responsibility was the only way to ensure that women weren't stranded with children they couldn't afford to raise. But now that we live in a world where abortion is legal (for now), and where abortion procedures are safer than carrying the child to term, there doesn't seem to be a good argument for men still needing to be financially responsible for unwanted children. Men probably would still need to assist in paying for the procedure, but outside of that, I think they had a point. Please explain to me if there is anything I'm failing to consider here.

I also want to apologize for the binary language I used in writing this. I tried at first to write this in a more inclusive way, but I struggled wrapping my head around it. If anyone can educate me in how to write in a way that doesn't disclude non-binary comrades, I would appreciate it.

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        Tbh it's weird to see peeps who call themselves "leftists" suddenly riding on the personal responsibility train. That's all.

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      "Lower classes" and "non whites" actually struggle the hardest to keep their parental rights. There's a strong effort on the white capitalist side to stop them (us) from having a family the way they (we) want. They (people like me) get their children torn away from them. We dunk on you for wanting to leave them for the consequences of your actions.

      Whites will see brown Latin families get separated in concentration camps in the US and then be like: damn, they are so bummed out that they have to pay child support

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        What even is the point of what you're saying here? Obviously white capitalists will do stuff to stop "us" (yes, me too, not that you care) from personal autonomy.

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          What even is the point of what you’re saying here?

          You are acting like "having to pay child support" is an issue between the "lower classes and other races". It's not. We struggle to keep our families, not with understanding that sex makes babies sometimes.