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  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    I'm not sure if its just ignorance but its wild to me how China and Russia have oriented themselves since 1980 for China and 1991 for Russia.

    In that US imperialism was so strong that their entire geopolitical outlook can be summed up as not putting your head above the parapet for fear of being destroyed by USA. (For Russia this lasted until 2007 when they finally broke with the West and understood the West would never accept them. For China they are still hoping to repair relations)

    do people not know USA bombed Chinas embassy in the Yugoslav war, quite deliberately and China said nothing?

    I'm not a Dengist but Dengs entire thing was "we need to hide our strength and bide our time" and they did so by binding themselves so tightly to US markets that if the US went to war with China they would be destroying their own economy first.

    The US currently surrounds China with 400 military bases with what John Pilger calls a noose and props up the antiCommunist so-called 'Republic of China' (Taiwan)

    China has 4 military bases overseas whilst US has over 900

    Even UK has 147

    US has been on a rampage across the globe since 1945 and left within its wake tens of millions dead, 100s of millions displaced and seeking refuge and ruined countries all over South America, Africa, Asia and Europe

    China has not been in a war since 1979 etc.

      • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I would start with the documentary The Coming War In China by John Pilger

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAfeYMONj9E

        Done in 2016 it lays out what the USA has been doing and how its laying the groundwork for a full scale war. The current anti-Sino propaganda everywhere makes complete sense in hindsight

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’m not a Dengist but Dengs entire thing was “we need to hide our strength and bide our time” and they did so by binding themselves so tightly to US markets that if the US went to war with China they would be destroying their own economy first.

      Capitalism is OK when China does it!

      In other words; to hell with the Chinese working class. They need to just suck up being exploited by capitalism, all cause China opposes US imperialism.

      • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Siri, what is Lenin and the Right Of Nations To Self Determination?

        And to your edit....the working class of China overwhelmingly support the Communist Party in poll after poll after poll

        https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3093983/chinese-rate-government-more-capable-ever-long-term-harvard

        A Harvard University survey has found that Chinese citizens' satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board, with the central authorities receiving the strongest level of approval, increasing from 86 percent to 93 percent between 2003 and 2016, the period of the study.

        http://www.china.org.cn/china/2020-07/17/content_76281590.htm

        From IPSOS 90% of Chinese consider their country to be going in the right direction.

        35% for USA

        https://www.visualcapitalist.com/countries-going-right-direction/

        • discopolo [none/use name]
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          What happens when China becomes more influential then America, which is bound to happen. In Lenin's work, he says it is the obligation from people from the ruling society to fight for the self-determination of smaller entities, so should it not be expected that the dynamic will eventually flip?

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          By Lenin's own definition of imperialism, China is exactly that.

          There are over 20,000 strikes a year in China where their working class rise up and get sick of the poverty wages and practical slave labor over there.

          But hey, it's all OK cause they oppose American imperialism. That's all that really matters.

          • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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            The 20th Century was the fight between Capitalism and Socialism

            Socialism lost

            The 21st century is the Right of nations to Self Determination versus US-EU imperialism. I'm so shocked how many people think it's anything different and try this "both sides shit".

          • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            But hey, it’s all OK cause they oppose American imperialism. That’s all that really matters.

            good take

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