• bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Systemd apparently. Every time someone brings it up, the thread devolves into a religious flame war.

    • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      I've never got this either. I've been using Linux exclusively for over 4 years, multiple devices, tested dozens of distros, almost all Systemd-based and I havent ever experienced any problems that the anti-systemd folks talk about.

      Or at least, they were so rare and minimal that I didn't notice.

      Coming from an IT background dealing with 99% Windows machines and Microsoft products, maybe my bar was on the floor, but Linux has been soooo much more stable and dependable than Windows.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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      10 months ago

      Was a little bit of a hassle initially to convert various custom init scripts into systemd unit files, but it was worth it IMO. Now the init scripts feel kinda jank in comparison lol.

      On a barebones or embedded system I can see a lightweight init having a very big appeal though

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The idea that we ought to improve society somewhat, even while participating in it. improve-society very-intelligent

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Here? Bicycles. Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here. Spreading the joy of a non-commodified fun-as-fuck method of transportation often provokes some truly reactionary energy here.

    • Killercat103@infosec.pub
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      10 months ago

      Biking is based. The benefits far outweight the cons compared to the other private transport we have today. I thought the hate was almost exclusive to cars from what I've seen which is understandable. At least in comparison to bikes.

    • bigboopballs [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Super weird how weird people are about bikes and bike lanes here.

      redditors are the worst about it. If you post in your town's subreddit about bike lanes, all the landlords crawl out of the woodwork to talk shit about bicycles and go on paranoid rants about how drivers are oppressed by bike lanes.

    • Chaotic Entropy@feddit.uk
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      10 months ago

      Knowing that there are motorists out there who will maliciously put your life at risk because you're on a bicycle is insane to me.

    • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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      10 months ago

      Who doesn't like bicycles? I mean, cyclists are often very reckless, dangerous people on the road, and bike lanes are sometimes more of a safety hazard.

      Bikers get a lot of hate because a lot of them act like pedestrians. (i.e. riding on sidewalks, crosswalks, not stopping at stop signs, not signalling turns or shoulder-checking) But then if you do all of that dumb law-abiding stuff like some kind of responsible citizen, people in cars honk at you, give you their right of way, or worse!

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        cyclists would not need to do those things if there was proper infrastructure and if car drivers weren't out to kill them.

        making bikes come to a complete stop is less safe because of the acceleration curve of a bike, if the way is clear it's safer the cyclist and anyone else around for the cyclist to maintain speed

        • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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          9 months ago

          Regardless, the law states that a vehicle must stop at a stop sign. Bikes are considered vehicles, and thus must come to a complete stop.

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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            9 months ago

            the law doesn't determine what is safest, physics does.

            the law also varies by jurisdiction and in some places having cyclists treat stop signs like yields rather than full stops is the law.

            • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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              9 months ago

              Really? I didn't know that! Where I'm from it's different. That's good to know, thank you! Have a lovely day, and stay safe out there.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        10 months ago

        found the truck driver who tries to kill every cyclist they see

        • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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          9 months ago

          I'm a cycling instructor. I teach people how to cycle safely and in accordance with laws.

          Have a lovely day, thanks for your input. I'm happy someone was ready to discuss with me!

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I mean, cyclists are often very reckless, dangerous people on the road

        you should try interacting with cars as a pedestrian or cyclist. There are people driving on the roads now that I wouldn't trust to safely ride in a pram let alone use of heavy machinery at high speed in a public area based on a test they did years ago. If car use was held to the same standard as safely using heavy machinery in an industrial environment a lot of people who drive now wouldn't be let near a car. It's like people think they have a god given right to operate heavy machinery despite having no ability (or inclination) to do so safely and doing it around children

        also bikes don't actually have turn signals and when you use your arm to signal it means you have less control of the bike while you do it

        • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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          9 months ago

          That's why you have to practice signalling so that you can maintain control over the bike while signalling. It's tricky, though, especially for less experienced cyclists. Have a lovely day and thanks for the insight!

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        "Who doesn't like bicycles"

        proceeds to list every bullshit anti bicycle talking point I've ever heard

        Damn those entitled cyclists acting like they're entitled to use the road without getting run over.

        • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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          9 months ago

          As a cycling instructor, I've been honked at, verbally harassed, and flipped off more times than I can count. The reason I know the anti-bicycle talking points is because my job is to discourage people from becoming like that.

          Sorry if it wasn't clear in my comment! Have a lovely day and thank you! Your response made me laugh.

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        I ride on the sidewalk when I can because I do not want to be run over by some frothingfash in a truck with a 12" lift who's infuriated by having to see a bicycle

        • Kevin11@lemdro.id
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          9 months ago

          I can understand that. I know that the laws (and road conditions) differ from place to place. Where I'm from, sidewalk riding is restricted to younger people, and so as a cycling instructor, I cannot advise my students to ride on the sidewalk, as it would be dangerous to pedestrians.

          Thanks for your perspective, though! I hope you have a lovely day and most importantly, stay safe out there!

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    1991 Hook with Robin Williams. I love that movie, but it seems that most people I encounter that didn't grow up with it think it's lame and boring.

    So maybe not hate, but not love either.

    • gazter@aussie.zone
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      10 months ago

      "I've had an idea... Lightning has just struck my brain..." "Oh, that must of hurt!"

      It's in that part of my brain that was written before I understood media being 'good' and 'bad', so my memory of it just is, I've never stopped to think about its quality.

  • XEAL@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Large Language Models (such as GPT) and AI image generators.

    I follow certain AI related post tags on Tumblr and sometimes I see people expressing pure hatred towards these tools, as they only see the AIs as content thieves.

    • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      10 months ago

      they only see the AIs as content thieves.

      AI is a method of content theft, it takes other people's work and pieces it together in a way that resembles other works, without any actual coherency.

      I don't like that it churns out slop that displaces actual content.

      I also don't like the way it's sped up enshitification of google and news sites. I didn't think it could get worse than pages of listicles written by disinterested journalists paid fuckall to churn out 10 a day, but now you have chatGPT churning out 100 completely useless articles a day.

      • XEAL@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        LLMs just automates and does faster certain things that a person could do on their own if they invested way more effort and time. If a human being takes people's work and pieces it together in a way that resembles other works without using any LLM/AI or automation tool, is the final result content theft too?

        I agree with the content enshitification, but I disagree about the coherency.

        Usually, implementations like the ChatGPT web/app will generate different outputs for the same prompt/input. You can also ask it to tweak a previous output, make it shorter, more concise, exclude parts, etc. And if you're making API calls through a script you can tweak parameters like the Temperature, Top P, Presence Penalty or Frequence Penaly, which affect things like the coherence, randomness or repetitiveness of the output.

        There's also fine tunning using embeddings, which can help training a model to fit one's specific needs and expectations, but I haven't got to try it yet.

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          10 months ago

          I disagree about the coherency.

          Coherency requires relating symbolic meanings. AI just uses statistical analysis.

          Consider if you were locked in the national library of Thailand. You don't speak Siamese, and any pictures or bilingual dictionaries were removed.

          Given a thousand years, you could look at the patterns and produce text similar to what someone who writes Siamese would write, but there's still no coherency because you cannot connect the meaning behind any of the words.

          That doesn't necessarily mean your outputs are useless though, someone who does read Siamese can have you generate outputs until you print out something they can infer a coherent thought from, but you're fundamentally unable to be trained to do that yourself.

          If a human being takes people's work and pieces it together in a way that resembles other works without using any LLM/AI or automation tool, is the final result content theft too?

          We're getting into ethics territory. IP is a social construct and we live under capitalism, our model for determining what is and isn't theft should be selected by what supports artists and consumers against capitalists.

    • DokPsy@infosec.pub
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      10 months ago

      I don't mind the tool itself if you use it as such. I do mind when people use its output as the final product. See: the lawyer who used chatgpt for a legal brief

      • XEAL@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        The lawyer fuck up is what happens when someone doesn't know or understand the limitations of a LLM.

        If you want a GPT model tailored and specialized for a specific task, you have to train it with custom data, fine tune it and tweak the model's parameters. You cannot do that from the ChatGPT web/app, you need a custom implementation coded in Python or some other language.

        • uralsolo
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          8 months ago

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          • XEAL@lemm.ee
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            10 months ago

            Thanks. I have a quite powerful rig, but at the moment I work with OpenAI's API using GPT 3.5 Turbo using a custom (but shitty) Python script with a simple Gradio web interface. However, I mostly stopped improving or updating it months ago. As long as I don't use LlamaIndex, the cost is quite low.

            I already use Stable Diffusion WebUI, tho.

            Also the "fine tuning" I was talking about is this https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/fine-tuning

            • TechieDamien@lemmy.ml
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              10 months ago

              I am aware what fine tuning is. It is available from the train tab while the base checkpoint is loaded in both cases.

        • DokPsy@infosec.pub
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          10 months ago

          I'm glad you understand my point. Chatgpt is not Google. It's a language model that will give you something that looks like the thing you asked for it to provide. It can and will pull facts out of its recycle bin if it fits the cadence of what it expects the answer to look like.

          • XEAL@lemm.ee
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            10 months ago

            ChatGPT is not Google, but sometimes it can work as a glorified search engine or even compete with asking in forums.

            I've lost count of how many times ChatGPT has produced Bash or Python code for what I needed. Yes, sometimes the code is wrong and/or requires tweaking and sometimes I resorted to look into the documentation, but no one will answer faster and anytime of the day like ChatGPT does, at least not for free.

            • DokPsy@infosec.pub
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              10 months ago

              It's a tool to aid in creating a product, not a tool that magics out a finished product. That's my point. Too many people use it as the latter instead of the former.

              • XEAL@lemm.ee
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                10 months ago

                100% agree.

                Maybe, with lots of training, weaking and testing the latter could be achieved, but that's it.

    • Rin@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      As an artist I think it's a more complicated issue than a lot of people are making it out to be, and all the fearmongering some popular artists are promoting really doesn't help.

      • XEAL@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        I think it's a more complicated issue than a lot of people are making it out to be

        Agree.

        Also. People are pissed that what they have taken years to master others can now get close to replicate with little effort and time.

        I've just realized that although they call the AIs "content thieves", what they really feel is that as AIs are able to replicate their skills quickly, it makes them feel their own merit diminished.

        If an artist creates artwork inspired on some other artist eveyone's cool; if an AI does the same, then it's stolen work even if the generated image is a unique new one.

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      8 months ago

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  • radix@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Snap on Ubuntu. I totally did not comprehend that it was proprietary; I just thought it was convenient, like apt.

    • XEAL@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      I didn't know that, but I already disliked it because installed apps don't really integrate in the system (eg: file system access, themes).

      Even Ubuntu installs this way something as basic as Firefox, what the fuck? At least I managed to get rid of the snap version and install it properly.

    • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      Same. I'm surprised when people hate me because I expect to be completely ignored. I have a very mild version of self loathing. I think I'm boring, unremarkable, etc. So, when people hate me (or are interested in me) it surprises me.

    • Especially_the_lies@startrek.website
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      10 months ago

      It has a 49% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, so about half of people seem to agree with you.

      As a stand-alone film, it is probably fine. As an entry in the Ghostbusters franchise, I did not enjoy the film.

      • Pringles@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        There is a lot of hate, but I was also thinking of this. It does surprise me that the anti-lgbt movement has become so widespread. Like, what did they ever do to be hated that much? Loving the wrong person?

        • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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          10 months ago

          I mean it's fairly simple. Queer people are in defiance of patriarchal gender roles by merely existing, so we must be hated.