Title states all, Vietnam is a country that fought for it's independence, fought off multiple invaders including 2 industrialized western superpower nations, and now is one of the fastest growing economies in East Asia and is generally speaking seen as a positive nation on the global stage, without all of the baggage that China or North Korea carry. Obviously this is an abridged understanding of Vietnam but on paper it looks good, unless there's some brave posters willing to tell me otherwise?

-7DeadlyFetishes

  • redterror [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Vietnam is not the most successful socialist nation in the world, Cuba has a signifcantly better standard of living, and Cuba is actually socialist, as opposed to Vietnam which is mixed-market market "socialism." Vietnam is state capitalist, not socialist.

    • Capt_ACAB [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      You could say the same thing about Cuba tho. The most recent constitution allows for private property and free markets if I'm not mistaken.

      • redterror [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Not sure if that's the case, but Cuba's industries as far as I'm aware are all businesses from Cuba, as opposed to Vietnam, where foreign corporations are allowed to operate an draw a profit not directly for Vietnam/Cuba.

        • Capt_ACAB [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I see that makes sense. I suppose in some sense it's in line with orthodox Marxist theory to develop national means of production, in the case of Cuba. Not sure if that's the official rationale or not but it would make sense.

          • redterror [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah I mean, most socialist states with the exception of the USSR pre-Gorbachev and after the NEP have some elements of capitalism, thereby making them not economically socialist on a technical level - however, almost all of them are advancing TOWARDS socialism, have socialist elements, and are following Marxist theory, thereby making them socialist.

            It's complicated lol

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      All socialist states are capitalist until everywhere is socialist. What's the point in drawing the line between Vietnam and Cuba like this?