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  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    Negligible amounts of people at worst. This is a non-factor, and ridiculous propaganda spread by giant corporations.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      You can't convince me pirated films don't affect movie sales at all. It doesn't make any sense. If it didn't affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it? I don't give a fuck if Disney or whatever makes less money and I'll keep pirating everything because it is awesome, but maybe don't pirate something by random indie developer/director who makes $5 made.

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        If it didn’t affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it?

        Because they're fucking stupid and they think it does affect their sales, despite all evidence to the contrary. These companies are not made up of infallible AI superhumans, they're made up of dumb out-of-touch boomers. They fuck up all the time.

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          despite all evidence to the contrary

          What evidence? Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn't affect sales. Because it definitely does and the only reason it doesn't dent sales more is because there's people who don't know how to pirate stuff, people who are afraid of doing that, and people who chose not to, and all 3 groups are shrinking. It makes no sense to argue it has 0 effect on sales. How does it make sense to say that if something is also available completely free of charge, it somehow doesn't affect sales??

          • Amorphous [any]
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            Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn’t affect sales.

            most of them dont think piracy affects sales, because it doesnt

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              You're saying that based on what?

              At this point you are being incoherent. First you say there is a massive propaganda campaign by businesses, then you say most don't really believe it affects sales. If they don't think it affects their sales, why don't they just make paying optional?

              It just makes no sense and I have no idea why people still insists it does. It seems like a weird stupid reddit myth that stuck because they would feel bad for pirating stuff if they thought it hurt sales. Something is literally available for free instead of having to pay for it, of course people will prefer free shit than paying for them. To argue that it somehow doesn't affect sales is like saying that none of the people who pirate things would buy them if piracy wasn't an option, which is such a weird argument and patently false. I guess they just don't remember the time before all the piracy websites?

              • Amorphous [any]
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                First you say there is a massive propaganda campaign by businesses, then you say most don’t really believe it affects sales

                You know that even one giant business which believes wacky shit can pump out ridiculous amounts of propaganda, yeah?

                If they don’t think it affects their sales, why don’t they just make paying optional?

                because that would affect their income. piracy, on the other hand, does not.

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                  because that would affect their income. piracy, on the other hand, does not.

                  It is literally the exact same shit with piracy, if someone is willing and knows how to pirate something, paying is practically optional for them. And again, the groups unwilling or unable to pirate something are shrinking. I can't believe this is something that has to be explained, if people can get something for free, they will usually try to get it for free instead of paying for it. You're just making stuff up. Businesses know and understand it affects their income, that's why they freak out about piracy that much. I'm not sure why so many people are willing to act like piracy doesn't affect profits at all, it's just such a dumb idea.

                  • Amorphous [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    the venn diagram of people who would buy your thing and people who will pirate your thing has practically no overlap

                    that's why it doesn't affect profits

                    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      the venn diagram of people who would buy your thing and people who will pirate your thing has practically no overlap

                      In what sense is that true? This is such a ridiculous take. Why would that be the case? Do you think the only people who pirate stuff are extremely poor and would never buy it unless they could get it for free? Almost no one wants to pay for something they can just get for free and as time passes, more and more people learn how to pirate stuff and are less afraid to do so. Especially movies. Do you remember DVD rental clubs? Because I do. Do you remember people buying DVDs to watch? Because I do. Guess what all these people are doing now. Even subscription services take a hit, why would I pay money for Netflix and Apple TV and this and that when I can just pirate all the shit they play?

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                        4 years ago

                        Almost no one wants to pay for something they can just get for free

                        and yet, despite piracy being hardly a barrier at all, video games and movies and tv shows still profit

                        hmmmmmmmm

                        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                          4 years ago

                          I literally explained that a thousand times already, jeez.