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Thesis: cyberpunk is trash fuck cd projekt
Antithesis: cyberpunk is good you should buy it
Synthesis: cyberpunk is good you should steal it
I'd say it depends, really. Stealing is neutral on its own. There are cases where it's bad and cases where it's good. Piracy is just good on its own merits. There is no way in my mind that I can possibly frame it negatively.
Furthermore, bananas are good and so is peanut butter, but despite the fact that I often eat them together, they are not the same thing. And differentiating between them is hardly a petty semantic argument, though technically it is semantics.
Ok yeah I guess you’re right if you wanna be a fuckin NERD :cringe:
There is no way in my mind that I can possibly frame it negatively.
There are reasons. As in, in some cases it hurts creators because they lose money. Though to what extent that happens really depends.
No one loses money as a result of piracy. Not gaining money from a specific person is not the same thing as losing money.
Some people who would otherwise buy it don't because they can get it for free.
Negligible amounts of people at worst. This is a non-factor, and ridiculous propaganda spread by giant corporations.
You can't convince me pirated films don't affect movie sales at all. It doesn't make any sense. If it didn't affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it? I don't give a fuck if Disney or whatever makes less money and I'll keep pirating everything because it is awesome, but maybe don't pirate something by random indie developer/director who makes $5 made.
If it didn’t affect their sales at all (or even helped them as some argue), why would they even care to spread propaganda about it?
Because they're fucking stupid and they think it does affect their sales, despite all evidence to the contrary. These companies are not made up of infallible AI superhumans, they're made up of dumb out-of-touch boomers. They fuck up all the time.
despite all evidence to the contrary
What evidence? Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn't affect sales. Because it definitely does and the only reason it doesn't dent sales more is because there's people who don't know how to pirate stuff, people who are afraid of doing that, and people who chose not to, and all 3 groups are shrinking. It makes no sense to argue it has 0 effect on sales. How does it make sense to say that if something is also available completely free of charge, it somehow doesn't affect sales??
Somehow I doubt all the mega-corporations whose sole purpose is making money and figuring out ways to do it better are all just completely stupid and none of them have ever figured out that piracy doesn’t affect sales.
most of them dont think piracy affects sales, because it doesnt
You're saying that based on what?
At this point you are being incoherent. First you say there is a massive propaganda campaign by businesses, then you say most don't really believe it affects sales. If they don't think it affects their sales, why don't they just make paying optional?
It just makes no sense and I have no idea why people still insists it does. It seems like a weird stupid reddit myth that stuck because they would feel bad for pirating stuff if they thought it hurt sales. Something is literally available for free instead of having to pay for it, of course people will prefer free shit than paying for them. To argue that it somehow doesn't affect sales is like saying that none of the people who pirate things would buy them if piracy wasn't an option, which is such a weird argument and patently false. I guess they just don't remember the time before all the piracy websites?
First you say there is a massive propaganda campaign by businesses, then you say most don’t really believe it affects sales
You know that even one giant business which believes wacky shit can pump out ridiculous amounts of propaganda, yeah?
If they don’t think it affects their sales, why don’t they just make paying optional?
because that would affect their income. piracy, on the other hand, does not.
because that would affect their income. piracy, on the other hand, does not.
It is literally the exact same shit with piracy, if someone is willing and knows how to pirate something, paying is practically optional for them. And again, the groups unwilling or unable to pirate something are shrinking. I can't believe this is something that has to be explained, if people can get something for free, they will usually try to get it for free instead of paying for it. You're just making stuff up. Businesses know and understand it affects their income, that's why they freak out about piracy that much. I'm not sure why so many people are willing to act like piracy doesn't affect profits at all, it's just such a dumb idea.
the venn diagram of people who would buy your thing and people who will pirate your thing has practically no overlap
that's why it doesn't affect profits
the venn diagram of people who would buy your thing and people who will pirate your thing has practically no overlap
In what sense is that true? This is such a ridiculous take. Why would that be the case? Do you think the only people who pirate stuff are extremely poor and would never buy it unless they could get it for free? Almost no one wants to pay for something they can just get for free and as time passes, more and more people learn how to pirate stuff and are less afraid to do so. Especially movies. Do you remember DVD rental clubs? Because I do. Do you remember people buying DVDs to watch? Because I do. Guess what all these people are doing now. Even subscription services take a hit, why would I pay money for Netflix and Apple TV and this and that when I can just pirate all the shit they play?
Almost no one wants to pay for something they can just get for free
and yet, despite piracy being hardly a barrier at all, video games and movies and tv shows still profit
hmmmmmmmm
blargthesis: the workers get direct pay bonuses from you buying it though most of the profit still goes to ghouls
The first bit of flavor text in the game is someone complaining (justly) about how the Soviets give everyone free healthcare while the Americans have the privatized Trauma Team™ that's pretty likely to just let you die and harvest your organs.
Now I really want a Cyberpunk USSR where you just use your cyber strength to help build rockets and venture towards the stars.
The "American" (USA no longer exists) healthcare is even funnier than that IMO. If you have enough money for private health insurance, the health insurance implant in your body will automatically calculate the cost of curing you when you get sick or injured. If you can cover the cost, a private flying ambulance will swoop down and pick you up, and if not you just die and somebody comes by later to harvest your implants.
It's insane that piece of adware still has mindshare in the torrenting community.
Deluge is great too (and potentially easier to install from distribution repositories for Linux users).
qBittorrent should be packaged in most distros as well. I do prefer Deluge as well.
I've always stood by Transmission myself. Most distros ship it with the GTK interface, but it has a QT interface as well if you compile it yourself. I've only used the QT interface on Windows though.
It a bit basic if you want to get into private trackers and have a massive amount of seeding torrents.
ruTorrent is usually recommended at that scale, but I can't stand it and it's API is shitty.
Deluge is a happy medium even though it chokes past 2k.
Yeah I'm not sure what's up with the GTK/Qt split for transmission, I've always thought it to be a GNOME-adjecent project.
qbittorrent is packaged by most distros
Did cpr do a linux version of cyberpunk?
No, but apparently it runs fine on the latest version of Proton (https://twitter.com/Plagman2/status/1336777322607734784)
I can't seem to get it to run under proton, but I also don't have the latest mesa git version so it might be that.
I felt for sure it was unavailable on Debian stable, even checked first, but I made a typo - you're right, it's available even there.
I assume you meant CDPR and no, they did not (or to be more precise, they did but it only runs on Stadia's servers and they didn't release it). However, there are now tons of people reporting it works with wine+d3vk-proton, both on AMD cards and (more surprising) on nvidia cards. Apparently performances are great (albeit less so on nvidia).
Forgot that witcherino never got a proper linux release. Do folks actually use stadia?
I've no idea but it's infuriating that they actually went to the trouble of doing a Linux port (all games on Stadia run on Debian servers) and not do the small amount of work (removing the Stadia layer / plugging in SDL or similar instead) required to publish that port publicly.
Transmission does the job and may also be available easily on distributions.
Deluge is good, but setting it up to use safely with a VPN is harder.
Deluge is probably better for gnome, xfce, and budgie users, qbittorrent is easily the best for kde users though.
uTorrent has crypto miners and adware, qbittorrent is open source and feature rich.
I don't know if it still does because I haven't installed it in years but it installed adware extensions and changed homepages.
as long as no direct hosting happens its technically legal afaik in most countries
I need a new video card, but it appears that all of the recommended budget cards are sold out.
need 3d chip printers. some kind of laser directed plasma vapor deposition micro forge would be pretty nice.
You know what, I may have to give this a go soon. Also /c/piracy when??
Proton VPN is fantastic (and has a free version), I can't recommend them enough.
I used protonvpn for a bit, but they don't allow port forwarding so it was really difficult for me to seed anything. Have you had any luck with this?
Honestly I can't remember the last time I needed to mess with port forwarding, I'm pretty sure I just added an exception so the program that needed it wouldn't go through the vpn. Which works fine for games but is probably less helpful for seeding.
Using an IP blocklist if your torrent client supports can't hurt. It doesn't help as much anymore as it used to, but it's so easy there's no reason not to.
Just wondering! I just set it up and saw there were multiple options.
How would this get updated if you wanted to download a patch they release say in a month when you might not be spoonfeeding us ezpiracy
Are the updates posted as separate downloads or do you have to redownload the game for every update?
To add to this, updated procedure if you want the gog version / you've already downloaded the preload gog files:
- Return to the same forum thread on rustorka; it has now been updated to the release, 1.03 version (with both patches, which the approach above didn't have before).
- Rename the preload download folder to "Cyberpunk.2077.GOG.Rip-InsaneRamZes".
- Add the new magnet link, make your torrent client check existing files so it only redownloads what has changed.
- Download; you'll still have 27GB to go from the preload files.
I actually bought the game, but I won't have the gog code until tomorrow so I can't preload it. Could I theoretically torrent this, then apply the code tomorrow?
If you torrent this, the files you obtain are identical to the ones the official 1.03 gog installer would generate; redeeming your gog code will still be useful to download future updates/patches instead of torrenting them though.
it's an 'rpg with voice acting' type of game, with run & gun combat... I don't think it's worth downloading to run on my GTX 780 lol
Thanks for this, I haven't pirated a AAA game before. Do the release files in step 2 include the day one patch with bugfixes?
looks like the trackers don't like my Deluge setup
guess i won't play the cum game
I was having issues with Deluge but qbittorrent is working great? Not really sure what is up with that but might be something to try
i cant download this shit its so slow. I dont know what issue ive got. Havent tried a different client yet.
I feel you. Deluge was sitting at like 8KiB/s down from 1 seed where qbittorrent is at 1.1MiB/s from 20 seeds which is way more doable. I thought they all basically did the same thing so no idea why different client is connecting better?
yeah just tried qbittorrent and it straight up stopped downloading. Idk, guess im not playing this game. I dont think its an issue with my vpn or download speed cause im still get 200mbs down.
