my point is that many of us here were cringe atheists five years ago, just like that guy, and nobody purity tested us. he won't switch sides if we are hostile to him. we should want him to switch sides, with his considerable platform. that doesn't mean we give up on feminism, just that we let him learn at his own pace. you can't expect (former?) enemies to fight by your rules. o l i v e b r a n c h