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  • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The capitalist class and the national bourgeoisie do not control China.

    • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      At one point they did not, but now they do.

      Transitions can go either way and it’s certainly not moving in the direction of workers’ control of the commanding heights of the economy, and this is plainly obvious if you have paid any sort of attention to the last 40 years of history.

      But you’re talking about “national bourgeoisie” like you’re Mao making a theoretical error in 1948, so I doubt you’re grappling with anything resembling reality.

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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        To say the capitalist class controls the country isn't correct in any way. Theres certainly differing party lines but capitalists and the rich do not hold any sort of control over the party or the country's policies, though id say their influence has certainly grown since the reforms, Minqi Li's critiques and analysis is certainly correct in that. To argue over whether china is socialist or not is just dumb and only ever seems like a game of vernacular. Every chinese marxist writes about the development of socialism in China, every other marxist thinker that writes about China does the same. This dumb argument is petty and i dont care for it, like I said, if you care about China read contemporary chinese marxist perspective on it. If you haven't than you can't tell me you actually care about understanding China.