• Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      Curious how these classes look like. Are they just the standard school/academia slog or is it more interesting than that

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        They're probably pretty dull tbh, but I'd rather get to educate myself and get paid for it rather than slog away doing nothing useful.

        • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          I really don't imagine them to be that dull once you consider that you don't learn XJT just because the law requires that you do. XJT is literally about how to govern China, you learn it because you will be deciding how to govern and build the Chinese civilisation (Well perhaps not as a McKinsey goon in school detention, but definitely when you're a CPC member). You will need to use your general education in geography, biology, cultures and their customs and environments, energy production and distribution, chemistry, physics, engineering, technology, civilian and military logistics, international relations, classical Chinese philosophy and current Marxist theory, together with your own creativity, imagination, and ability to draw connections, to answer problems existential to the oldest continuous civilisation known to humanity.

  • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Some bank executives and business heads have to take around a third of working time to study Xi Thought, joining activities and courses, or reading four books from Xi every month, according to people familiar with the matter. Attendance is mandatory this year and they also need to submit papers on what they’ve learned.

    Lol amazing

    • Black AOC@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      We should start doing that with the crackers. Get caught aggressing, micro or macro, that's a sentencing to Fanon and hooks

      • ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        imagine someone hearing a knock on their door and it's the cracker containment squad holding a copy of The Wretched of the Earth haha

        • Black AOC@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          One of 'em pins 'em down while the other hits the Reverend Father Uncle Ruckus (no relation) while holding it open lmfao

          • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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            10 months ago

            Frankly i don't believe that teaching capitalists Marxism does anything but give them ideas on how to better exploit the working class. Many capitalists understand Marxism quite well actually, they are more aware of the class struggle than most workers are and they are consciously and constantly fighting to improve their position over workers. They understand concepts such as the usefulness of having a reserve army of (unemployed) labor in driving down wages by creating competition among workers, maximizing extraction of surplus value, atomizing workers to prevent them from exercising collective power, etc.

            So while i appreciate what China is trying to do, i think it is pointless and misguided to try and teach CEOs and other corporate higher ups Marxism. At best it is a minor nuisance for them to have a small amount of their time wasted each day. It would be much more effective to teach the workers instead. China could pass a law mandating that workers must attend at least one ideological education class a week, during work hours and paid for by the employer.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            No to belabor the point, but there are multiple books written as essentially: "Marx for Capitalists: How to Undermine Proletarian Class Struggle"

  • JohnBrownsBussy2 [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    A third of working time for a bank executive? If you discount business meals and "golf course deals," that's like 4 hours a day total? ( so 1/3 of that = 1 hour a day)

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Honestly probably the most labor they'd have done in a long time since it's not just snorting cocaine and pressuring interns to give them handjobs

  • Black AOC@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    Oof, immediately paywalled

    EDIT: Okay, after reading the archive link, this is just funny. Amerika loves to play funny with other nations' money; but let China start doing it, and ["rules-based" order (lmfao)]"ouuuuuuuuuu, ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, nooooooooooo, you can't do that you dirty sl-- iiiimeballs, you can't do that--" [/"rules-based" order]

      • loathesome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        I think the ones taking these lectures are execs and other variety of leeches at Chinese banks or other other Chinese institutions or organisations. The original source at Bloomberg says:

        At a Beijing-based state-owned energy company some employees said they were increasingly being dragged into impromptu training during working hours. Such sessions, often centered around Xi’s latest remarks, were held at an isolated facility with mobile phones confiscated sometimes, making it hard for coworkers to reach out to them in case of a work-related emergency, according to these employees, who asked not to be identified as the matter is private.

        Some bank executives and business heads have to take around a third of working time to study Xi Thought, joining activities and courses, or reading four books from Xi every month, according to people familiar with the matter. Attendance is mandatory this year and they also need to submit papers on what they’ve learned.

        At the same time, bankers have seen steep cuts in salaries and the rollback of many perks, such as business travel, all to comport with a key tenet of Xi Thought: “common prosperity.”

        https://archive.ph/tbvpL

  • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    Is it wise to be teaching capitalist bastards diamat? They already have a better class consciousness and class solidarity than the proletariat

    • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      Capitalists may already know about diamat theoretically, but their class nature forces them to internalise and practice an incomplete version. From the capitalist class perspective, diamat is only useful to counter and prevent revolutions and to preserve their own power, but at the point when the revolution succeeds and their counterrevolutions fail, their understanding of their own role in society must necessarily break down. The question "And then what?" to them seems as ill-posed as to a clock the question of what came "before" the beginning of time. This is why such a perspective is severely lacking in terms of philosophy, history, and economics; it fails to answer basic questions about revolution, socialism, and communism which any worker can easily explain after even a cursory reading of Lenin, it stifles the creativity and imagination of the practitioner by presupposing capitalism as final, and it breaks under the practical weight of a historical mission that is impossible to achieve.

      It is a philosophical impossibility to see diamat and histomat through to their logical conclusion without adopting the proletarian perspective, and I suppose this is what these books, lectures, and essays hope to achieve in the end. They are there to make bankers, board members, and consultants understand the unsustainability of the capitalist perspective, to teach them what their work will entail in a socialist society, and to mentally prepare them for a life of normalcy where they remain prosperous but must forego political domination.

      • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        Interesting perspective. Do you think it might help reduce the "after us - deluge" type mentality that these capitalists have?

        • HaSch@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          I hope that at the very least it will serve as psychological warfare, a daily confrontation with a perspective that is irreconcilable with their economic role and goes further than theirs is bound to make them lose at least a few nights of sleep, especially when they dwell and live among the achievements of proletarian Marxist theory

  • zephyreks [none/use name]
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    10 months ago

    Honestly having worked with some big consulting firms, I wouldn't be surprised if China's just done with their shit.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      What the fuck do these dildos even do? What's the result of their "consulations"?

      • Comprehensive49@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        They're basically staffed with a bunch of college MBA's with no real business experience, whose job is to advise confused CEOs on how to best cut wages and costs to increase profits.

  • raven [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Paywalled for me. 12ft.io wasn't working but the Bypass Paywalls extension for firefox did.

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    • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      truly, yes, it doesn't seem to be forcing any sort of economic concessions, but more trying to consolidate the capital of China from foreign interference. The authors say its coming with a lot of "free speech limitations" but doesn't care to list them, or just lists things that were already happening.

      And since I only could get a pdf version, I couldn't see what they meant by "Xi Jinping thought". Western newspapers could say this about all marxism, this could be the manifesto for all we know. I don't really see how educating capitalists on marxism, especially that of its main scientists, would do anything.

      This seems to be just making a ruckus over nothing in particular.