State capitalism is the initial stage of socialism
The lower stage is born from the womb of capitalism and has all its birthmarks... that's literally what Marx wrote
If a country and a People had to pass some dupe's purity tests online, then I think the revolution & any workable alternative would've been snuffed out long ago
State capitalism is the initial stage of socialism
The lower stage is born from the womb of capitalism and has all its birthmarks… that’s literally what Marx wrote
I really struggle to grapple with how many self-avowwed "leftists" don't understand this.
Marx said that socialism would arise out of capitalism. So if you think Marx is right then state capitalism and later socialism are not at all mutually exclusive. State capitalism might not be pretty, but it sure seems to beat the shit out of every other type of awful capitalism thats been tried so far.
plus it's the only legitimate way that workers can both feed themselves & engage in productive organized activity while also creating the surpluses needed to rail against their class enemies
if we had a way to "Vajrayana" lightning strike our way to FALGSC, I think the thing would've already happened lol
you are a reactionary for thinking that PRC has to abide by some abstract set of "traditional" principles that really only exist inside your mind, not in the real world
there are material conditions that have to be considered, and 1 billion+ people have to wake up and eat every day
without state capitalism, PRC would still be a feudal backwater and without socialism it would still be an imperialistic or client state mess
if you don't want to give credit for the fastest growing & most quickly advancing economic system in history, fine. but don't try to label it something it's not
that's just your brand of cope, not anything to do with reality
State capitalism is the initial stage of socialism
The lower stage is born from the womb of capitalism and has all its birthmarks... that's literally what Marx wrote
If a country and a People had to pass some dupe's purity tests online, then I think the revolution & any workable alternative would've been snuffed out long ago
I really struggle to grapple with how many self-avowwed "leftists" don't understand this.
Marx said that socialism would arise out of capitalism. So if you think Marx is right then state capitalism and later socialism are not at all mutually exclusive. State capitalism might not be pretty, but it sure seems to beat the shit out of every other type of awful capitalism thats been tried so far.
plus it's the only legitimate way that workers can both feed themselves & engage in productive organized activity while also creating the surpluses needed to rail against their class enemies
if we had a way to "Vajrayana" lightning strike our way to FALGSC, I think the thing would've already happened lol
At the end of the day, you're trusting one set of autocrats over another. I get it. The collapse of Western hegemony is well past due.
I just think you're falling for the feel-good reactionary alternative in doing so.
wrong again
there is such thing as social necessity
you are a reactionary for thinking that PRC has to abide by some abstract set of "traditional" principles that really only exist inside your mind, not in the real world
there are material conditions that have to be considered, and 1 billion+ people have to wake up and eat every day
without state capitalism, PRC would still be a feudal backwater and without socialism it would still be an imperialistic or client state mess
if you don't want to give credit for the fastest growing & most quickly advancing economic system in history, fine. but don't try to label it something it's not
that's just your brand of cope, not anything to do with reality