Curious where the majority of this site falls. No need to struggle or anything, I just wana see what y'all think.

    • curmudgeonthefrog [he/him]
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      Yep, it was hanlon's razor. Each of the state apparatuses (CIA, FBI, MI6 etc) fucking hate each other and were dumbasses so they just didnt work together. This resulted in homeland security being built. But turns out they are also incompetent so now we just have another department built to abuse immigrants and silence dissenters.

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      It's become part of the new cultural zeitgeist. You can say "They knew the attacks were coming, but 'allowed' it to happen to hammer through the Patriot Act and invade Afghanistan/Iraq to secure resources" and be met with little pushback.

      It's a different world from when I was saying the exact same thing in 2001.

    • MeowdyTherePardner [he/him]
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      I mean, pick your incentive:

      I think that the 'safest' normie interpretation is that our long history of overthrowing democracies and funding terrorist groups (i.e. the CIA and the Mujahideen) came back to bite us in the ass.

      The more complete explanation is that we never stopped meddling in the Middle East and even if the US wasn't involved directly, 9/11 was either orchestrated with the explicit blessing and financial backing of the Saudis, or that and things were simply 'allowed to happen' with the Saudi's implicit blessing and financial backing, much in the same way that the CIA would back a coup.