• LibsEatPoop [any]
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    1 year ago

    Thread with cope if you want to browse.

    ITS JUST AN ANCIENT SLAVIC PAGAN RUNE BRO. ITS AN ANCIENT SLAVIC PAGAN RUUUUUUUUUUNE.

    You'll have to scroll and open some replies to see the cope, as by now some normies have updooted the sane "fuck the nazis" type comments. But they're there. Lotsa them. Along with a lotta "fuck Russia" comments.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I don’t understand liberal logic. When the Soviets invaded Poland alongside the Nazis, it was done out of desperation because the west rejected the Soviets’ requests of alliance prior to the war. Sure, one can denounce the entire USSR because they worked with the Nazis.

        But those same people who denounce it will move heaven and earth to excuse countries, armies, militias, volunteers, etc. who fought alongside Nazis, or are Nazis themselves - original or neo - out of ideological agreement.

        Grinding your teeth and pragmatically working with people who want to commit genocide against you = forever evil, no nuance

        Happily sieg heiling, committing and supporting perpetrators of massacres that even Nazis tug their collars to, and having so many Nazi symbols in your movement that your own supporters have to remove footage of and apologize for: based, psychological warfare, simply nationalism

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Take an ideal, like "democracy" for example.

            Bastardize it into pure simulacrum. (i.e., Ukraine getting couped and banning most political parties etc. is democracy)

            for example: rules based international order means doing whatever America wants

    • panopticon [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Oh yeah they're rolling out all the classics, especially "Russia has more Nazis tho" and "Nazis don't justify invading"

      Also this unfortunate soul saying, as "an ethnic Jew living in Kyiv, [Holodomor]"

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Respond with Wagner can’t be Nazi because Prigozhin was Jewish, just like how Azov can’t be Nazi because Zelensky is Jewish

        • panopticon [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Wait really? agony-shivering

          That thread is a cognitohazard though, I don't really have the patience or time right now to fight it out with the banderite-apologist posters and mods there so maybe someone with higher posting power can take it to them

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Prigozhin

            depends how you count it his dad was by some accounts ethnically Jewish but as I understand it some Jewish groups only count having a Jewish mother

        • ikiru@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          Wait, was he really or are you just trolling?

          That would be so hilarious if Prigo was Jewish.

        • panopticon [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          They're all like, bbbut every country has Nazis (?), would that make it okay to invade the US? And so on.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Once again reminding people that symbol is in fact from the 1930s. It's not ancient and has only ever represented naziism

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        They were choosing what looked like the lesser evil at the time.

        hitler-detector

        The abstract fate of a few thousand Poles and Jews was not a significant factor compared to the number of Bolsheviks' victims they knew personally.

        jesus-christ

        I wrote this as an ethnic Jew born in Kyiv.

        It goes without saying that were this person around in the 1930's they'd've been a kapo then as well.

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I know an ethnic jew born in Kiev. She survived the holocaust, and from her telling lived a pretty good life and raised a family in the USSR. As the Soviet Union was collapsing and antisemitism was increasing she moved with her family to Chicago. She traveled back to Russia several times, but never returned to Ukraine, which I think about a lot. Who wants to survive the holocaust and then still have to live alongside these nationalist shitheads, just waiting for it to happen again.

      • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        ”They turned not due to their love of Hitler”

        Bandera did, though.

      • FrogFractions [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Another irony here is that the mass slaughter of horses and cattle by Banderites in the late 1920s and early 1930s was one of the major factors leading to the collapse of food production in the early 1930s and the famine across the southern USSR.