• some liberal in about 6 months to a year from now.
  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "Sorry, hate to break it to you, but a kinder more rational fascism is the only way to save western civilization." - corpo media, about a year from now.

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      • lugal@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Too many people read 1984 and too few read Homage to Catalonia. It's a shame but what was I expecting

        • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Orwell was a rat who helped the british security apparatus, no one should read his drivel.

          • lugal@lemmy.ml
            ·
            1 year ago

            He was disillusioned by the stalinists who jeopardized the Spanish revolution and rightfully so. But why am I talking to you

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              he reported anti racist activists for campaigning against racism and he also reported a bunch of people because he thought they might have been gay.

              Also at risk of being banned for sectarianism the anarchists in the spanish civil war were a massive liability. They didn't agree with following orders (not a virtue in a soldier), they organised strikes in factories making the guns to fight fascists, and they massacred nuns which was used as a propaganda piece by the fascists and prompted volunteers from Ireland and other catholic areas to fight for the fascists.

              Anarchism is a beutiful ideology at its core but the Spanish anarchists were to some degree the author of their own misfortune

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              1 year ago

              He was a rapist snitch who sold socialists out to the British state, get a fuckin grip

            • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              okay i bite ... give me the run down on the Stalinist betraying the Spanish Revolution (actually the elected goverment) .. can you contrast it to the support that the great (oh the flag is so sexy) Spanish republic got by all these other "republics" .. Standing "as proud as Liberals do " against Fascism...

              • lugal@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                Just read the book: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/george-orwell-homage-to-catalonia

                But Stalin sided with the liberals because he said Spain isn't in the position for a revolution. The anarchosyndicalists weren't too happy about it. According to Orwell at least, there sure are different views on the story.

                On lemmygrad I've been downvoted into oblivion (with a different account) for explaining basic facts about anarchism. Here I'm called a liberal and get comments deleted for insisting that today's Ukraine isn't nazi Germany. Lemmy is wild.

                • RedDawn [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Stalin is the only person in the world that actually sent weapons and military advisors to Spain to fight the fascists, what the fuck are you even talking about?

                • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  You know that you currently trying to give me "Homage to catalonia " is evidenz of your victimhood of propganda , in School they forces animalfarm on you ,then you pleadged loyalty to the flag as Free People do.. , now you try to force Orwell onto me ..?

                  --> I will not read a book to find the argument you can not be assed to make but feel obliged to repeat .<--

                  General edvice : Dont trust Angloids , they belive propagnada only happens to other people and that they are a good force in the world.

                • Mardoniush [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  While homage to Catalonia is a great book, it is not an accurate portrayal of the Anarchists actions in those days. It should be taken as only a personal experience of Anarchist Catalonia, not a political analysis. Even Beevor has a better overview.

                  I'm pretty sympathetic to them and the MLs are certainly open to criticism, but "hecka awesome anarchists stomped on by Stalinists trying to reverse the revolution" is not what happened. Orwell is so, so politically clueless here about a fraught and morally grey case of infighting, jockeying for power and coup attempts by all sides.

                  I mean he ended up with POUM ffs and then tried to switch to the MLs!

              • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Always and forever the best response.

                Asimov was also a bit of a shit head, but damn what a dunk

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          It's a shame but what was I expecting

          That's how I feel reading posts from a cryptofascist bootlicker like you.

    • Flinch [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It was probably deleted for your fascism apologia shrug-outta-hecks

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I checked the modlogs, and it seems the mods banned you for being a cryptofascist bootlicker.

      But I think it'd be reason enough that you were posting 1984 cringe. READ. ANOTHER. BOOK. stop-posting-amogus

      • lugal@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the president Jewish? Didn't a Russian bomb kill the oldest holocaust survivor?

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the president Jewish?

          Just like how the USA famously ended anti-black racism when Obama was elected. clueless

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Zelenskyy hangs out with the Nazi founder of the Azov Battalion, the guy who once said Ukraine's mission was to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade...against Semite-led Untermenschen”. He also publicly wears clothes made by a Ukrainian company that also makes patches featuring Nazi symbols.

          • lugal@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            Which puts him on one level with Hitler? Do you expect pogroms and stuff anytime soon? I'm not defending Ukraine but comparing it with nazi Germany is where I draw the line.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Do you expect pogroms and stuff anytime soon?

              Are you completely unaware of what has been done to Roma people in Ukraine? The burning of camps? The public beatings? Or the terror campaigns that were carried out near the start of the war?

            • Clippy [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              i don't know if they are "pogroms" but they are some predecessor to it https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/11/29/radicals-target-roma-people-ukraine

              excerpt "Roma people in Ukraine often face violence, but official investigations rarely produce outcomes. No one has been held accountable for the 2017 murder of Mykola Kaspitsky, leader of Roma community in Kharkiv region. Earlier this year, the case was closed for the fourth time, over concerns that police were attempting to sabotage it."

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Why have you just completely ignored my questions? Don't avoid shit that might result in you learning something ffs.

                • Awoo [she/her]
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                  1 year ago

                  Ah I thought that was indicated on profiles. I guess not for federated accounts? Disappointing as it doesn't give me any opportunity to post the things I intended to post in follow up. I've got to change my entire posting style under the assumption that I'll only get one response and won't get a back and forth, but that is less effective in my experience.

        • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          if a Nation shoots since 8 years on its Minority , that it calls Orcs and Occupiers and wishes to live in basements (thsi is the president of ukraine talking about the russian minority) ... if they do this .. we call them Nazis because of the THINGS THEY DO ! , Not your Brainworm game shit that starts with "indicator Jew" or some othe shit..

          Your Brain is activly rotten if you think

          "they have a Jew as president they can slaughter the russians" is an Argument..

          please have thee dignity to understand that... This argumentation is activly insane , it requires 5 inital brainworms to even understand

          like

          • Jews as a Indicator for "Anti Faschism" ... (extra .... )
          • Complete removal of all resoning from any factual basis (donbass war , Law on Minority language status etc.. ) to a the most stupid vibe factor ..
          • complete insane Priority of evidence "the president is Jewish"

          vs..

          literally "the Linar progressing of Time "

          please weak up from your coma , your brain is like a muscle, from time to time you need to allow it to examing something carefully..

          PS: Priogzin is jewish as well (was) .. it is very stupid reasoning..

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      • lugal@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        The issue isn't that Ukraine is doing German-style fascism.

        Well, the post is about Ukraine doing German style fascism. There is a lot to criticize for sure but comparing it to nazi Germany is where I draw the line.