This is a waste of time because of the desired outcome. What will a vote accomplish? We'll out the bad actors within the party and then everyone will see them as the cretins they are and lo and behold the Democratic party will swing left overnight? This is conspiracy minded bs that imagines that a great revelation to the public will somehow result in political change rather than a progression of material forces. You're turning material dialectics back on its head towards Hegelian dialectics where the superstructure is the engine of history rather than the base. There is no end goal here, it's just back to trying to distinguish bad and good actors again so we can jerk off about how much we love some and hate the others and then we'll repeat the process in 2-4 years. Join a fucking union or something, jesus
it's not a "conspiracy" to think forcing corporate Dems to explain to their voters why they voted against healthcare for all is a good thing and beneficial to the long term goal of passing M4A
right, so you admit you didn't actually have a reason to be against this other than to act like you're somehow superior for calling it pointless
I feel doomer all the time, but I'm actively trying to avoid spreading it because it doesn't help anybody and why should I get in the way of ppl actually trying something
Nah you're still wrong but you seem like you're committed to it so go off queen/king. Me yelling at you on chapo.chat is as pointless a time sink as you yelling at AOC or Jimmy Dore or whoever on twitter. Have fun with it if it gets your rocks off my guy, I just don't see this as genuine praxis that is moving a left wing movement towards a goal line. First and foremost because there is no constituted left wing movement within US politics, just a bunch of disparate opinion havers and the working class masses who must suffer the ill wishes of our rulers
This is a waste of time because of the desired outcome. What will a vote accomplish? We'll out the bad actors within the party and then everyone will see them as the cretins they are and lo and behold the Democratic party will swing left overnight? This is conspiracy minded bs that imagines that a great revelation to the public will somehow result in political change rather than a progression of material forces. You're turning material dialectics back on its head towards Hegelian dialectics where the superstructure is the engine of history rather than the base. There is no end goal here, it's just back to trying to distinguish bad and good actors again so we can jerk off about how much we love some and hate the others and then we'll repeat the process in 2-4 years. Join a fucking union or something, jesus
You dumb libs don't think we should keep Pelosi as speaker of the house 😏
Yas kween
it's not a "conspiracy" to think forcing corporate Dems to explain to their voters why they voted against healthcare for all is a good thing and beneficial to the long term goal of passing M4A
Well good luck with it then
right, so you admit you didn't actually have a reason to be against this other than to act like you're somehow superior for calling it pointless
I feel doomer all the time, but I'm actively trying to avoid spreading it because it doesn't help anybody and why should I get in the way of ppl actually trying something
Nah you're still wrong but you seem like you're committed to it so go off queen/king. Me yelling at you on chapo.chat is as pointless a time sink as you yelling at AOC or Jimmy Dore or whoever on twitter. Have fun with it if it gets your rocks off my guy, I just don't see this as genuine praxis that is moving a left wing movement towards a goal line. First and foremost because there is no constituted left wing movement within US politics, just a bunch of disparate opinion havers and the working class masses who must suffer the ill wishes of our rulers
WTF is "genuine praxis", again with the weird purity/superiority helplessness mindset
They just like make up some shit, like with Obama's ostensible public option which he killed at the first available opportunity.