bonus points if you get banned for sharing it

i'll start: most "vote blue no matter who" liberals are actually good people (not including terminally online liberals as anyone who is terminally online is a bad person)

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    A lot of the time when anyone on here talks about anything related to Europe, it's obvious that most people on here are American with not that much understanding of European politics. I get everyone here wants to be eu-cool, but I'd rather see their views based on facts, otherwise you sound like the chuds who think Sweden is becoming a muslim country or whatever.

    Using Russian natural gas is bad, actually. Being dependent on Russia for energy isn't ”energy independence”, but this site seems to think so, unlike being dependent on the US, which is bad and being a vassal state. The only difference here is that Russian gas is cheaper, but shouldn't we encourage not doing the destructive capitalist thing and relying on cheap fossil fuels?

    Hexbear is too lenient on Russia in general. I saw someone once say they had no idea Russia had reactionary anti-LGBT laws, which was pretty bad, that's been pretty general knowledge for years at this point, maybe educate yourselves a little before you go ”Putin based antifascist destroying NATO equipment!”.

    • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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      1 year ago

      If your goal is independence, two sources are always better than one.

      Reducing fossil fuel use by increasing costs and funneling profits to America is a neoliberal approach to climate change and doesn't work. All it's going to do is make people poorer and move production of petrochemical-derived and energy-intensice products elsewhere. This is because the market is not able to make a sustainable change away from fossil fuels, especially not for a temporary wars, as these investments have to be amortized over decades. If you want to actually reduce fossil fuel use for heating and electrcity, you need governmental investment into nuclear and renewable energy and programs to install heat pumps. Becoming dependent on American gas is not actually going to help, and neither will changes in prices because it's a non-market solution.

      Unless of course you think America is inherently more ethical than Russia and should be preferred - I'll let you make that argument.

      • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Reducing fossil fuel use by increasing costs and funneling profits to America is a neoliberal approach to climate change and doesn't work

        Yes, but I don't know why you'd think I was advocating for that.

        Becoming dependent on American gas is not actually going to help

        It doesn't, but I wasn't saying that either. I was saying that both Russian and American gas dependency are bad - Hexbear only seems to think the latter is bad.

        Unless of course you think America is inherently more ethical than Russia and should be preferred

        michael-laughbugs-no Among the many crimes of the US is being a major reason for still relying on fossil fuels in the first place.

    • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      I think it's possible to recognize that Russian domestic governance is really bad, but also recognize their progressive role internationally, and fully support their defeating NATO.