• ProfessionalSlacker
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    Fuck anyone defending this. Idc how deeply propagandized the American people are, 100s of thousands of people are dying, millions are losing their livelihoods and our social fabric is crumbling while China, Vietnam, Venezuala, Cuba, etc. got a handle on the pandemic within months and are having fucking pool parties. If you're not using this moment to make the case that what the American people think they know about how foreign countries work is bullshit, you are completely fucking useless.

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      3 years ago

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    • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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      Some real clown hours when you see leftists talking about the 4chan shit of "hiding your power level"

      "hiding your power level" can only work when you are already perfectly fine operating within the capitalist-imperialist paradigm which most fascists are A-OK with.

      Meaning "hiding your power level" is a perfectly good strategy as your goal is to get some sliver of power and do stuff like cut bus lines to black communities to impoverish them (by stopping them able to travel for work into white communities) or sign crime bills designed to incarcerate blacks

      The last 150 years of the labour movement has proved that if you pretend to be an opportunist and social chauvinist..... You end up an opportunist and social chauvinist

      Communists openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.”

      -Karl Marx

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        Entryism seems to be changing the people who enter more than the institutions they enter. Who could've thought...

        Also lol at anyone that sill believes the "hiding your power level" stuff

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      I think you’re underestimating how fucking propagandized the American people are. At best she could get away with saying some mildly positive shit about Vietnam cuz they’re our allies, a single good word about Cuba, China or the DPRK and she’d lose her next election for sure and the FBI would probably leave a bag of coke and some child porn in her apartment.

      This isn’t a defense of AOC, she can fuck herself, but honestly I don’t think her suddenly “revealing her power level” (assuming she actually is more left than she lets on (she’s not)) would achieve Jack. Everyone would hate her, she’d become ruined and irrelevant in a year and maybe even in jail. It’d achieve nothing for her besides scoring some points with us, and achieve nothing for anyone else.

      Just take the 3rd Worldist Pill and hope Xi invades us like I do.

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        No offense intended, but I feel like this is basically doomer talk with slightly more nuance. Not that the revolution can't or won't start in the global south - in fact, that's pretty much the only way I see it happening - but the idea that we can do nothing but sit and wait until then just seems too cynical to me. We should put in the work to build socialism at home, even if we know we're going to fail, because that's how we set the groundwork for the next generation.

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        Look how hard they went in on Bernie because he said that Castro's literacy programs worked. He was still talking about how much of an evil dictator Castro was, but they jumped down his throat either way. Literacy became bad overnight.

        AOC is not, never has been, and likely never will be a communist. But she is the far left of US politics, and should be half-embraced and pulled left by half supporters who can point out how dumb these takes are. That's basically the definition of critical support.

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          They went hard on Bernie because he was seeking to disrupt the political establishment, not because he made a positive comment about Cuba. There's no sense in biting your tongue to appease a media that is against your political agenda.