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  • This [it/its]
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    4 years ago

    I feel very called out. I generally try to eat less meat, but can't quite bring myself to give it up completely.

    Random question: Is it possible to feed a cat/dog/snake on a plant-based diet?

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      Big time struggle session material here, but I don't think it's ethical to feed a vegan diet to your omnivorous or carnivorous pets. The are lots of unknowns/uncertainties about the long term health impacts, and it's unfair to choose that on behalf of an animal that can't consent or give input.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Do not make your cat vegan. They can get really sick, and you could even go to jail for animal abuse.

    • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Can't say about dogs but cats are strict carnivores given they cannot endogenously produce certain proteins which they get from their diet.

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        4 years ago

        Hmm, interesting.

        The other thing I struggle with about having a pet is the notion of ownership. Like having anything live in a fuckin cage, or trapped at home during an 8-hour shift. Unless I have a family or co-op with rotating schedules, it feels kinda barbaric.

          • Quimby [any, any]
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            4 years ago

            I think the language is more controversial than the actual activity. Adopting and raising a pet is basically the same thing as adopting and raising a child. We shouldn't get hung up on the word "ownership". That's just what we call it because our society feels the need to define everything in terms of property and profit. But I know plenty of people who are making a push to try and use "guardian" langauge instead in reference to their pets.

          • mwsduelle [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I think animal breeding is awful and should be stopped because it causes horrible deformities and health issues. Strays should be spayed/neutered with the eventual goal of no strays because they fuck up the local environment. Adoption is cool and good because otherwise those animals would have miserable lives. I don't know if there's an ethical way to continue to have pets in the future. With no breeding, there would only be babies when animals had consensual intercourse but when is it okay to separate them from their parents? Is it ever okay?

    • Rufashaw [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      An added point to ones mentioned here is that many of the required amino acids lacking in plants that need to be supplemented in hypothetical vegan cat food, are already coming from plant sources in standard cat food because its cheaper, I believe most use industrial fermentation