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Hello everyone! Today at 20:00GMT I'll be having my conversation with @VaushV, do come by and chill with us as we have a productive and pleasant discussion on our outlooks on reform and revolution. I will link it once we're about to start.— Hakim (@YaBoiHakim) January 3, 2021

Apologies for the V**shposting, but I think this warrants an exception because it's also Hakimposting.

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  • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I watched some more of the stream after Hakim left and I'm even more confused. He said "If socialist countries implemented market socialism and banded together against the US, they would make the US dependent on them which would prevent military intervention." Literally today's China. Someone in the chat said "Isn't China doing this?" and he said "well China isn't socialist so no."

    LMao

    Actually it is very interesting that he came to that conclusion.

      • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Honestly I'm not comfortable speaking on China. It's a very complicated situation all around and my pea brain can't handle it. But I think there are valid reasons for Dengist market policies, the mass expansion of trade & participation in global capitalism is definitely a part of what has led China to be where they are today. I think to wish that China was China but with worker co-ops is kind of a useless take, they did what they did as a country to thrive in global capitalism. China as the mass industrial power today is not something that would arise from anarchist type worker co-ops, though it's interesting to speculate. My guess is much heavier US intervention and eventual coup. Who knows.

        Vaush is totally correct in this bit of analysis though. Actually I was pretty happy to see this interaction between them. If I met Vaush at work or something and he started talking about American politics and union power I'd definitely be like "hell yeah dawg let's hang out" but because we're online it feels like the left has way more power than it does so we instantly become sectarian and start to shit on other leftists. Not to say that he's completely wrong on so many fronts, but I just wish we could all set all that shit aside until we had any power. Same goes equally for Jimmy Dore and all the fervently anti-Jimmy Dore people.